Lemmy.ml is the instance admin’d by the developers of Lemmy, who are Marxists. Lemmy.world is admin’d and moderated by liberals who generally are hostile towards Marxism, and have defederated from the 2 largest explicitly Marxist instances as a result.
Users generally prefer Lemmy.ml or Lemmy.world depending on their opinions on Marxism and Communism vs liberalism and Capitalism. We are on Lemmy.world right now, which is going to have far more people agreeing with OP than if this was posted on Lemmy.ml, where users hold the opposite opinion, that Lemmy.world is a problem (generally).
ever asked a lemmy.ml admin/mod whether they’re pro-Russian or not? You’ll notice you’ll never get them to answer, but they’ll get mad as fuck and start spewing all sorts of unrelated garbage, while refusing to answer a simple yes or no question.
The ridiculous thing is it would be so easy to lie about it, but Russians don’t even jokingly want to write that they’re not pro-Russian so as to not “accidentally fall out of a window”.
I haven’t ever even interacted with you, but going by your reaction, you would avoid answering the question:
Do you believe Russia has broken international law with their illegal war of aggression by invading Ukraine in February 2022?
Second of all, what, you think they don’t have the internet or something? You would like the internet to have a trump-wall to protect you from what foreigners have to say? Sheltered little cowardy fuck
Oh no no. I have nothing against Russians who are against Putler. But for those pussies who pretend they buy into the shitty propaganda and then support pro-Russian bullshit, they are hypocritical.
I have several Russian friends over here in Finland who managed to escape when they were kids.
And denying Russian misinformation while blaming the Americans. If you’d signed that comment “Love, Putin” it still wouldn’t be more see-through, lol.
Get rid of Putin, Ruskies. You’ve deposed dictators before, you can’t do it again. Then you get to enjoy all our fun Western things again, and can afford to put some butter on your bread.
“When I get really aggressive with people and demand that they answer loaded questions they don’t immediately submit to my framing and let me dictate the entire course of the conversation.”
You think “is X breaking international law” a “loaded question”.
This is exactly what I meant a few days back when I was laughing at you larping a philosopher. You use all these buzz words you think magically make you win an argument.
No, asking “Has Russia broken international law with it’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022?” is not a loaded question of any sort.
It’s just proof you’re a Russian too afraid to say outloud what he knows to be truth. Like a coward.
Also, using the “I’m writing a strawman in quotes as my argument” thing really gets old after you use it more than three times in a row.
This really doesn’t work with adults. Sorry. You larp a philosopher with buzzwords from fallacies you can’t even je bothered to read a wiki article about.
Honestly this comment proves you’re a bot. You detected ‘strawman’ because I called you out for using debatebro buzzwords haphazardly, but your algorithm just caught the word itself so you spit out a response that acted like I was using it.
It’s extremely funny that you’re accusing me of what you just did under the heading ‘no u’
A lot of hex users were just really toxic over there and other blahaj coms, and when a couple blahaj users and a mod were toxic back and mods/admin didn’t immediately respond, hex defederated from blahaj, which blahaj admins were already considering
Whereas worldist don’t deny genocide, they’ll just say “it’s unavoidable because both sides want it anyway so it doesn’t really matter because you have to stay realistic so it’s not much of a deal really nobody cares”.
I wish more people would defederate from .world lmao
I’m confused. What are you saying? That word is thrown around against socialists. Tankies is often used to shut someone down and ignore what they’re saying no matter how correct it is, or how little it has to do with Marxism.
Implementation of communism and the defense of their (supposed!) Implementors is the problem.
Tankies defend russia, a nazi state. While shoving slurs at anyone in the western world. And calling them a nazi.
Tankies blindly salivate at what China is doing. Always explaining every horrific thing that had happened as a necessity. Then throwing slurs at anyone that disagrees. And banning when their logic is dismantled.
Tankies are defending NK. Disinfo nort korea normal people started on lemmy precisely when NK sent shells to russia.
Meh westoids are gonna call you a russian troll whenever somebody doesn’t suck their natoist penis. Jingoism is only allowed on one side, but clinton sent yeltsin.
What is “inherently flawed” about Marxism? Furthermore, all major AES states have been dramatic improvements on what came before, from the brutal Tsarist Russia, to the poor agrarian Nationalist China, to the fascist slave economy of Cuba, Socialism has made a massive improvement compared to previous systems for these countries.
The iconic Tiananmen square “Tank man” photo, where one guy stands in front of a column of tanks on their way to slaughter pro-democracy protesters, briefly stopping them. Tankies are lunatics that wish for authoritarian communism and so unironically support the tanks running him over.
Lmao “running him over?” The video shows him walking away completely unscathed, after they let him into the tank to talk. The tanks were also leaving the square, not entering it. That’s also not where the term comes from.
Sure. They’re not far enough to the right for some of .world’s centrists, who are very upset that some people from .ml are outspoken opponents of genocide. And as such, they have for the third time designated an instance to be the “tankie instance” that they desperately want .world to defederate from. .world’s centrists will continue this until they have convinced the admins to defederate from .ml, at which point they will once again find a new instance to designate as “tankies” and start the pressure to remove it.
They consider .world’s neoliberalism to be the leftmost acceptable boundary of political thought, and will do anything to limit the discussion accordingly.
Nah im just not a big fan of anyone who simps for putin and the taliban, it’s really that simple. If they weren’t a bunch of tankie edgelords I’d honestly consider making a hex account, some communities there are neat but not worth having to see all that shit lol
I hate liberals exactly as much as you do, if not more. That doesn’t mean I have to stand by people trying to justify homes and children being stolen from Ukraine, or how China actually isn’t doing any genocide, or how Taliban Good bc they fight ISIS and don’t like the US
Why the fuck are you assuming all this shit about me xD I hate Putin and I hate Biden, they both do a bunch of genocide, why do you assume I’m not 100% on your side? I very much am unless you think Putin is cool and based and doing good things in Ukraine
I have literally spent the last like 6 months getting banned from .world communities for disagreeing with liberals about the genocide in Gaza, if you missed all that that’s on you. Don’t assume I’m a libt4rd just bc I don’t jack off to a pinup Putin on my wall
You’re living rent free in my head rn, it’s genuinely bewildering that you somehow think i support zionism or some shit. I didn’t get called a trump supporter by a bunch of l*bs just so other leftists can baselessly accuse me of supporting Israel. The fuck is your deal? You think someone can’t dislike both Israel AND Russia? Seriously please explain this, I’m at a loss for fucking words as to how hating a government that wants me dead means I support murdering children in Gaza, I’m kinda seething about it tbh
Yes, I can tell because you’re so angry that you’re leaving multiple unhinged replies to single comments.
The fuck is your deal?
My deal is that I don’t think that the hatred for ml is rooted in anything having to do with Russia. I think it’s because centrists want anyone to their left (and only their left) to be silenced.
My hatred for Russia is rooted in the fact that their government would oppress the shit out of me for being trans, and that hatred extends to you if you’re trying to defend Russia or insinuate that I’m a liberal. Why in the fuck are you trying to do leftist infighting WITH SOMEONE THAT AGREES WITH YOU ON GODDAMN EVERYTHING??? I love infighting !! I love baselessly accusing other leftists of supporting genocide!!!
If the last two you’re referring to are grad and hex, good riddance :3 I’d rather not be seeing blatant Stalin or North Korea apologia in my communities
It’s gonna be whatever one you’re on you authoritarian asswipe. Get the fuck off this instance you tankie cunt, it’s not for you. Stay in grad where you fucking belong so you and your stalinist buddies can keep simping for regimes that would have me killed
Can someone inform me about what’s wrong with lemmy.ml?
Lemmy.ml is the instance admin’d by the developers of Lemmy, who are Marxists. Lemmy.world is admin’d and moderated by liberals who generally are hostile towards Marxism, and have defederated from the 2 largest explicitly Marxist instances as a result.
Users generally prefer Lemmy.ml or Lemmy.world depending on their opinions on Marxism and Communism vs liberalism and Capitalism. We are on Lemmy.world right now, which is going to have far more people agreeing with OP than if this was posted on Lemmy.ml, where users hold the opposite opinion, that Lemmy.world is a problem (generally).
The ml stands for Marxist-Leninist, and the admins are tankies
oh, please not this shit again
ever asked a lemmy.ml admin/mod whether they’re pro-Russian or not? You’ll notice you’ll never get them to answer, but they’ll get mad as fuck and start spewing all sorts of unrelated garbage, while refusing to answer a simple yes or no question.
The ridiculous thing is it would be so easy to lie about it, but Russians don’t even jokingly want to write that they’re not pro-Russian so as to not “accidentally fall out of a window”.
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Becsuse of the tons of clear Russians on Lemmy, pushing Russian propaganda?
The Argentinian conflict was in 1982, my man, you’re a decade(s) late and a ruble short.
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I haven’t ever even interacted with you, but going by your reaction, you would avoid answering the question:
Do you believe Russia has broken international law with their illegal war of aggression by invading Ukraine in February 2022?
Oh no no. I have nothing against Russians who are against Putler. But for those pussies who pretend they buy into the shitty propaganda and then support pro-Russian bullshit, they are hypocritical.
I have several Russian friends over here in Finland who managed to escape when they were kids.
And denying Russian misinformation while blaming the Americans. If you’d signed that comment “Love, Putin” it still wouldn’t be more see-through, lol.
Get rid of Putin, Ruskies. You’ve deposed dictators before, you can’t do it again. Then you get to enjoy all our fun Western things again, and can afford to put some butter on your bread.
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probably has something to do with them being materialists and understanding that geopolitics is more complex than good guys vs bad guys
Oh yeah sure.
International law is pretty clear though.
Specifically on wars of aggression.
Like the one in February 2022 by Russia who illegally invaded Ukraine.
No need to assert goodness or badness on anyone or anything, but it is very clear Russia is guilty of breaking international law. (As usual.)
“When I get really aggressive with people and demand that they answer loaded questions they don’t immediately submit to my framing and let me dictate the entire course of the conversation.”
-Basement dweller with no social skills
“loaded questions”
You think “is X breaking international law” a “loaded question”.
This is exactly what I meant a few days back when I was laughing at you larping a philosopher. You use all these buzz words you think magically make you win an argument.
No, asking “Has Russia broken international law with it’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022?” is not a loaded question of any sort.
It’s just proof you’re a Russian too afraid to say outloud what he knows to be truth. Like a coward.
Also, using the “I’m writing a strawman in quotes as my argument” thing really gets old after you use it more than three times in a row.
Learn what a strawman is. You look like a fucking idiot.
Ah more of the “no, u”.
This really doesn’t work with adults. Sorry. You larp a philosopher with buzzwords from fallacies you can’t even je bothered to read a wiki article about.
I read Zizek for fun.
Honestly this comment proves you’re a bot. You detected ‘strawman’ because I called you out for using debatebro buzzwords haphazardly, but your algorithm just caught the word itself so you spit out a response that acted like I was using it.
It’s extremely funny that you’re accusing me of what you just did under the heading ‘no u’
Modern Russia is an imperialist shit hole. There you got a straight answer.
I feel u. Inter-instance wars are cringe asf🤦
Big agree, I really wish people from ml and hex would stop brigading communities they don’t like
Real shit how the fuck are people gonna claim hex is trans friendly after how they acted on 196@blahaj?
If you dont want people to comment on your ameritarded shit quit spamming the lemmyverse with trump crap.
Because Hex says they’re the most trans-friendly because “don’t be transphobic” is in the rules so it must be true.
What happened with blahaj’s 196?
A lot of hex users were just really toxic over there and other blahaj coms, and when a couple blahaj users and a mod were toxic back and mods/admin didn’t immediately respond, hex defederated from blahaj, which blahaj admins were already considering
Their users often argue for authoritarian regimes and deny genocides.
Whereas worldist don’t deny genocide, they’ll just say “it’s unavoidable because both sides want it anyway so it doesn’t really matter because you have to stay realistic so it’s not much of a deal really nobody cares”.
I wish more people would defederate from .world lmao
They are tankies
I’m confused. What are you saying? That word is thrown around against socialists. Tankies is often used to shut someone down and ignore what they’re saying no matter how correct it is, or how little it has to do with Marxism.
Socialism is not a problem.
Hell. Communism is not a problem.
Implementation of communism and the defense of their (supposed!) Implementors is the problem.
Tankies defend russia, a nazi state. While shoving slurs at anyone in the western world. And calling them a nazi.
Tankies blindly salivate at what China is doing. Always explaining every horrific thing that had happened as a necessity. Then throwing slurs at anyone that disagrees. And banning when their logic is dismantled.
Tankies are defending NK. Disinfo nort korea normal people started on lemmy precisely when NK sent shells to russia.
Meh westoids are gonna call you a russian troll whenever somebody doesn’t suck their natoist penis. Jingoism is only allowed on one side, but clinton sent yeltsin.
Well said
Probably because Marxism is an inherently flawed political system, and every country that has ever attempted it has quickly become a hellhole.
You should unclench brother.
What is “inherently flawed” about Marxism? Furthermore, all major AES states have been dramatic improvements on what came before, from the brutal Tsarist Russia, to the poor agrarian Nationalist China, to the fascist slave economy of Cuba, Socialism has made a massive improvement compared to previous systems for these countries.
You can check out my introductory reading list on Marxism if you want a better understanding of Marxism.
https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
I am thinking about tanks, explain.
“Tankie” is a pejorative used against Marxists, though I’ve seen it even used against Anarchists these days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Might as well just link directly to the CIA homepage if you’re going to use wikipedia as a reference for leftist politics and history
The iconic Tiananmen square “Tank man” photo, where one guy stands in front of a column of tanks on their way to slaughter pro-democracy protesters, briefly stopping them. Tankies are lunatics that wish for authoritarian communism and so unironically support the tanks running him over.
Not the origin of the word.
This dates back to Hungarian revolution in 1956 and tanks being deployed by USSR.
Lmao “running him over?” The video shows him walking away completely unscathed, after they let him into the tank to talk. The tanks were also leaving the square, not entering it. That’s also not where the term comes from.
Libs will do literally zero research about something they build their entire identity around
What happened before that? During the Tiananmen Square protests and massacre.
Where the fuck do you libs get your misinformation from?
That’s not where the term comes from.
https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
It do be facts tho:-D
All those poor tipped over bicycles 😢
Comrade Hakim made a great video explaining the origins of the term and exploring how it is used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcJ5NrJtQ8g
Sure. They’re not far enough to the right for some of .world’s centrists, who are very upset that some people from .ml are outspoken opponents of genocide. And as such, they have for the third time designated an instance to be the “tankie instance” that they desperately want .world to defederate from. .world’s centrists will continue this until they have convinced the admins to defederate from .ml, at which point they will once again find a new instance to designate as “tankies” and start the pressure to remove it.
They consider .world’s neoliberalism to be the leftmost acceptable boundary of political thought, and will do anything to limit the discussion accordingly.
Nah im just not a big fan of anyone who simps for putin and the taliban, it’s really that simple. If they weren’t a bunch of tankie edgelords I’d honestly consider making a hex account, some communities there are neat but not worth having to see all that shit lol
Why would communists simp for putin? Putin and the talibans are sponsored by the US. Hello?
Are you sure you’re not just projecting that shit just because they do not follow your jingoist dualistic mindset?
Have you already decided what the next “tankie instance” is gonna be?
I hate liberals exactly as much as you do, if not more. That doesn’t mean I have to stand by people trying to justify homes and children being stolen from Ukraine, or how China actually isn’t doing any genocide, or how Taliban Good bc they fight ISIS and don’t like the US
Do they not support Netanyahu’s genocide stridently enough for your liking?
Why the fuck are you assuming all this shit about me xD I hate Putin and I hate Biden, they both do a bunch of genocide, why do you assume I’m not 100% on your side? I very much am unless you think Putin is cool and based and doing good things in Ukraine
I have literally spent the last like 6 months getting banned from .world communities for disagreeing with liberals about the genocide in Gaza, if you missed all that that’s on you. Don’t assume I’m a libt4rd just bc I don’t jack off to a pinup Putin on my wall
You’re living rent free in my head rn, it’s genuinely bewildering that you somehow think i support zionism or some shit. I didn’t get called a trump supporter by a bunch of l*bs just so other leftists can baselessly accuse me of supporting Israel. The fuck is your deal? You think someone can’t dislike both Israel AND Russia? Seriously please explain this, I’m at a loss for fucking words as to how hating a government that wants me dead means I support murdering children in Gaza, I’m kinda seething about it tbh
Yes, I can tell because you’re so angry that you’re leaving multiple unhinged replies to single comments.
My deal is that I don’t think that the hatred for ml is rooted in anything having to do with Russia. I think it’s because centrists want anyone to their left (and only their left) to be silenced.
My hatred for Russia is rooted in the fact that their government would oppress the shit out of me for being trans, and that hatred extends to you if you’re trying to defend Russia or insinuate that I’m a liberal. Why in the fuck are you trying to do leftist infighting WITH SOMEONE THAT AGREES WITH YOU ON GODDAMN EVERYTHING??? I love infighting !! I love baselessly accusing other leftists of supporting genocide!!!
Go fuck yourself cunt. Trans rights, fuck putin💖
I haven’t seen any other instances where the majority of users simp for putin and the taliban, so nope :3
That’s what lemmy’s centrists said when the last two instances got defederated.
If the last two you’re referring to are grad and hex, good riddance :3 I’d rather not be seeing blatant Stalin or North Korea apologia in my communities
So what’s the next one? As long as world isn’t the leftmost instance, there will be a next one. Is it gonna be .ee? midwest.social?
It’s gonna be whatever one you’re on you authoritarian asswipe. Get the fuck off this instance you tankie cunt, it’s not for you. Stay in grad where you fucking belong so you and your stalinist buddies can keep simping for regimes that would have me killed
They do not support the Biden administrations genocide in Gaza.
https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE PEOPLE GENOCIDALLY ANGRY AT THESE FUCKING ASIANS IF THEY KEEP DELETING MY BLOOD LIBEL???