• Zement@feddit.nl
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    2 days ago

    Well then they will have to train their Ai with incorrect informations… politically incorrect, scientifically incorrect, etc… which renders the outputs useless.

    Scientifically accurate and as close to the truth as possible never equals conservative talking points… because they are scientifically wrong.

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      It would be the same with liberal talking points and in general any human talking point.

      Humans try to change the reality the way they want it, thus things they say are always incorrect. When they want to increase something, they make it appear less than IRL, usually. Also appearances are not universal.

      Humans also simplify things acceptably for one subject, but not for another.

      Humans also don’t know what “correct information” is.

      A lot of philosophy connected to language starts mattering, when your main approach to “AI” is text extrapolation.

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        So you’re saying you lie to try and change reality or present it in a different way?

        That’s horrible and I certainly don’t subscribe to this mentality. I will discuss things with people with an open mind and a willingness to change positions if presented with new information.

        We are not arguing out of some tribal belief, we have our morals and we will constantly test them to try and be better humans for our fellow humans.

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        Math is correct without humans. Pi is the same in the whole universe. There are scientific truths. And then there are the the flat earth, 2x2=1, qanon anti vax chematrail loonies, which in different degrees and colour are mostly united under the conservative “anti science” folks.

        And you want an Ai that doesn’t offend these folks / is taught based on their output. What use could that be of?

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          Ahem, well, there are obvious things - that 2x2 modulo 3 is 1, that some vaccines might be bad, that’s why farma industry regulations exist, that pi is also unknown p multiplied by unknown i or some number encoded as ‘pi’ string.

          These all matter for language models, do they not?

          And you want an Ai that doesn’t offend these folks / is taught based on their output. What use could that be of?

          It is already taught on their output among other things.

          But I personally don’t think this leads anywhere.

          Somebody someplace decided it’s a genial idea to extrapolate text, because humans communicate their thoughts via text, so it’s something that can be used for machines.

          Humans don’t just communicate.

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        Tell me more about how your theories of gay people being abominations are backed by science.

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        Only because you are a layer does not conclude that all humans are egoistic layers. Of course there are a lot of them, but it is not a general human thing, it’s cultural and regional. Layers want you to believe that everyone is lying all the time, that makes their lives more easy. But feel free to not believe me 😇.

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        I think you hurt peoples feelings lmao.

        The truth just isnt very catchy. Thanks for trying though. Im still on lemmy for people like you.

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    Chatbots can’t “admit” things. They regurgitate text that just happens to be information a lot of the time.

    That said, the irony is iron clad.

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    Implying he gives a shit. The thing about people who lack any empathy is they’re immune to embarrassment even when they’re the most embarrassing human on the planet.

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      This is nothing to do with “empathy” and everything to do with class…

      And yet normie pleb can’t understand the concept of a class war while literally getting fucked in the ass, no lube of course because that’s socialism

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        If he keeled over dead SpaceX would keep functioning as it is held up by the actual employees who do the actual work. All a CEO does is provide goals, directions, and demands for more profits. They’re a glorified overpaid manager and those are not in short supply.

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            Sure a CEO does other shit. It’s all the same stuff a manager would do. You really think that if daddy Musk vanished the literal rocket scientists working there wouldn’t be able to keep doing their work? The trained accountants and managerial staff would curl up under their desks unable to carry on? The value of a CEO is both real, and extremely overstated. They’d have a new CEO before the end of the month.

            In a nutshell, yes he runs the company. No it isn’t some badge of genius, he manages a company. Many other people are just as, if not more qualified.

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                I already know you aren’t going to change your mind, and I already answered your initial question, so why would I keep arguing with the proverbial village idiot?

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              Yes, he’s doing it. And all those other guys aren’t (in fact they look rather petty in comparison). So yes, I give him credit. Bigass credit.

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                Are you aware Elon bought the title of “founder of Tesla”?

                He’s not invented jack shit. Dude’s a moron.

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                You are fucking funny. Sure he has the time to run three corporations, raise his ten kids, and now be involved in the US government. Plus he spends an exorbitant amount of time on Twitter and doing drugs. Not to mention chasing his employees around trying to impregnate them.

                What, in fact, does he actually do Infiniteasshole?

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      Actually they made a new department of “Government Oversight” for him…

      Which sounds scummy, but it’s basically ju8st a department that looks for places to cut the budget and reduce waste… not a bad idea, except it’s Right Wingers running it so “Food” would be an example of frivolous spending and “Planes that don’t fly” would be what they’re looking to keep the cash flowing on

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          With Musk what he’d see as wasteful is… anything that isn’t his fucking kickbacks or programs that make his ex-wife start returning his calls.

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            He said he was gonna cut the federal budget by ~30%, or roughly two trillion dollars. I saw an economist say that if you fired Every. Single. Govt. Employee it still wouldn’t save two trillion dollars. It’s just absolutely insane.

            Sharpen up the 'tines, me hearties. The time is nigh.

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      Even more accurately: it’s bullshit.

      “Lie” implies that the person knows the truth and is deliberately saying something that conflicts with it. However the sort of people who spread misinfo doesn’t really care about what’s true or false, they only care about what further reinforces their claims or not.

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          The saying works for day to day random bullshit. Not when a cocksucker buys a media outlet specifically to spread lies.

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        To that I’d say, “don’t attribute to ignorance what can easily be explained by greed”

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          What does greed have to do with spreading misinformation? Even the term itself implies ignorance. If it was intentional it would be called disinformation.