• IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    I’m still worried about how he’s even going to accomplish that, seeing as he’s also planning to deport the cheapest sources of agricultural labor.

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      2 months ago

      Simple. Prices will go up, Trump will hold a press conference announcing prices are lower, and 50% of the country will believe prices are lower instead of the lying mainstream media.

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        2 months ago

        The mainstream media will report that Trump said prices are lower, and not actually point out that he is a lying liar.

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          2 months ago

          This the the answer. The two major tenets of his platform are “raise tarrifs” (inflationary!) and “deport immigrants” (raising costs on production). Shit is going to get more expensive, but it won’t matter if facts continue not to matter and you have a boogieman to shake your stick at.

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      2 months ago

      And what happens if he closes the border with Mexico? Is he going to disrupt trade with them too? Here in Texas an overwhelming majority of our produce is Mexican-grown

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      I think it’ll wind up as slavery. Instead of actually deporting huge numbers of people, they’ll go “wow so it turns out that’s really hard” and use them as prison labor instead. You don’t have to pay prison laborers.

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        Isn’t that how the Nazi camps turned into death camps? Originally they were just saying to deport the jews, take back the country, blah blah, and then they realized how absolutely brutal it is to forcibly migrate millions of people so they turned to labor and executing the excess. Await a fact-check from a better informed WW2 scholar than me though

        • Mirshe@lemmy.world
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          Ehhh, there’s still lively debate, but the general consensus is that the whole “we’ll deport the Jews/undesirables” thing was mostly a smokescreen, and the plan was always to either place them in work camps or kill the ones that couldn’t work. The camps came AFTER a lengthy campaign of extermination against “useless eaters” such as the elderly, the chronically ill, and the mentally and physically disabled, which was billed as “well they’re a huge drain on state resources.”

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      2 months ago

      That’s easy! Repeal child labor laws and massively increase prison populations for slave labor!

      …they did say private prisons were among the groups very happy to see a Trump victory. Wonder why…

      I will make sure to suicide by cop before I end up a literal corporate slave, I will force the guards to kill me.

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        Those mass deportations are going to take a lot of money and time.

        They’ll probably end up turning their massive holding facilities into work camps, maybe hang signs up with catchy slogans like “Trabajo te hace libre” or “El trabajo libera” and forbid any unfriendly reporters from seeing how the sausage is made.

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      What’s worse is that the public is so fucking moronic that they EVER believe a word of it. It would be impossible to underestimate how stupid voters are. Honestly. They only surpass their stupidity with their selfishness

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        2 months ago

        But when I suggested that perhaps we need to make sure people are mentally fit to vote, I’m a nazi. Keep letting the idiots vote and we’ll always be stuck with the lowest common denominator.

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          I might know which user said that to you. I had a run in like that too. They kept telling how I was objectively a fascist for agreeing with the sentiment – was explicitly explaining that I am not sure how you would implement it precisely, but that it was understandable. NO ITS fAsCisT and UnCoNsTitUtIoNaL!!!

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      Well, to be fair, that graph only looks like that because the Dems always seem to inherit a dogshit economy that’s been destroyed by conservative policies, then the Republicans inherit a strong economy before destroying it.

      • veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world
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        Yup, unfortunately people don’t understand that policies only change the equilibrium, but sometimes take longer than electoral cycles to see effect.

        That’s why no party really gives a shit about bringing down the national debt, because twofold:

        • people hate you in your term because that’s less money being spent for their benefit now
        • the opposition can have more spending room to provide more benefits in their term, making them more popular.
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          The Republicans will never reduce the debt because the only cuts that would make a difference are the ones that are the most popular with their voters. Couple that with tax cuts and the math just doesn’t work for deficit and debt reduction with a Republican government.

          Are they going to cut Social Security? No, too many older voters that depend on that income. Medicare? Nope, same thing.

          Will they cut the military? Of course not, they wouldn’t be able to virtue signal about how patriotic they are.

          They’ll surely cut the education and IRS budgets, but the education cuts wouldn’t make a significant difference and the IRS cuts actually increase deficits because then the IRS can’t go after the rich.

          The Democrats wouldn’t cut any of those things either, but if the Democrats increased taxes for top earners and top-earning corporations, and implemented a wealth tax, the increased revenue actually could reduce the deficit.

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    2 months ago

    he won’t though. so enjoy your rights being taken away and rising cost of groceries.

  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    prices went up under Trump, Trump told people the prices went down, and dumb people believe him.

    Biden told corporations to lower their prices, the corporations lowered their prices, Trump said prices went up, dumb people believed him.

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      2 months ago

      Lol he has latched onto literally the only obvious idea one could execute as president which would be guaranteed to do the opposite.