Dems are controlled opposition
Any excuse to give yourselves a pass for banging the drum for American and Palestinian genocide, huh?
Well why not have some for oneself if it’s so good to be exported everywhere.
I love the part where I predicted that the talking point of the day would change to “It’s Good, Actually, that LGBT folk and POC are going to get genocided in America”
What’s the world like when you can paint every topic with a single brush and walk away feeling smug?
this doesn’t even make sense
Honestly, I could have labeled the knifes and grenades better. Basically I am saying that it is silly to blame anyone other than the organization that runs the campaign as it is their job to motivate voters and they spent billions of dollars, record numbers and motivated nobody. The only people who voted were regular democrat voters and people, like me, voting on a harm reduction ideal. However now that the election is over we can clearly say that the harm reduction voter strategy for the left and dumping billions in courting the right is not a sound strategy.
Thus blame and pressure should be placed on the Dems for failing to do anything to motivate the left to vote for them, as they are the ones who run the campaign and make the strategy, are named individuals who can be pressured and moved and less effort should be expended yelling at the left for not voting as that is the strategy that has now lost two elections.
I hope that is a better explanation than the meme provided of my viewpoint on the matter.
I don’t care about the parties. Anyone who failed to offer the slightest resistance to fascism is responsible. And the rest of us get to live with this for the rest of our lives, trying to fix the unfixable.
You don’t care about the parties? So you are just letting the entire political leadership off Scott free for their failure in this election to blame random people on the internet? Big brain maneuver. Maybe you should pay attention more, care more, understand more.
“Ha ha sitting out and letting the far-right win will really show them”
Ha ha, refusing to appeal to the left and letting the far right win will really show them.
Make sure to call the Trevor Project, families that have already lost people, and those who are about to see genocide in the West Bank about how it’s ok because you held to your conviction without a care about the second and third order effects or increase in human suffering that it would cause.
Classic
Complete genocide of the Palestinian people is a moral victory? Huh. That’s a new one to me.
I don’t think you understood the picture.
I doubt anyone could make heads or tales of that diagram
Ya know what. My last response was pedantic. Here’s the 33 minute explanation of this thought. https://youtu.be/wCl33v5969M?si=MaOaGngmjZxMjxM3
It requires self reflection if you are of the same mind that is discussed in the picture. Seeing yourself from another perspective. Pretty hard stuff.
The left doesn’t show up to vote
Maybe if they ran a fucking left-wing candidate they might.
Then they would lose votes from moderates and lose again
The sheer number of trump voters I’ve heard say they were originally gonna vote for Bernie is larger than you would imagine.
People are angry the system is rigged, trump channels that anger and says he will solve it. Granted he won’t and they’re dipshits for believing him, but that’s how it goes.
100% of Trump voters I’ve met call Biden and Kamala radical leftist that are responsible for inflation and many other things.
I’m sure there are some fringe trump voters that would vote for Bernie but not enough.
Trump has foreign bots, the billionaire class and republican propaganda machine all helping him.
Bernie would be depending on donations from lower income workers.
I am talking about the voter swing required for trump and GOP to sweep the whole government. That isn’t because of Trump supporters, they would vote trump if he personally knifed their mother in front of them. That is because of disenfranchised fence sitters who put zero effort into educating themselves and then vote for a change of leadership off of a gut instinct that a different person cant do worse. Its ignorant and wrong, but look no farther than worldwide elections this year showing a huge ousting of incumbent officials. Inflation has been unreal, and the uneducated think the president controls literally everything (see the “I did that” stickers on gas stations nationwide) People want change but they don’t know how to get it, and here is a man yelling and screaming about how he is going to change shit.
I know its difficult to imagine being this ignorant, but i truly believe this is how a lot of people operate. Its not malice, its ignorance and apathy.
I would vote for Bernie but in my experience many voters are closer to the middle of the ideological spectrum than far left or right.
This is very true, a lot of people get wrapped up in their bubbles, either the internet bubble or their own personal bubbles, so they believe the bubble when it says “everyone is left or right” but there’s a ton of people sitting in the middle just apathetic towards being invested politically.
The kicker is that those people in the middle are villanized by both sides as being a part of the other side. Instead of them trying to bring them to their ideology, they push them away. But this was what the constant polarization through wedge issues get you, an easily divided populace that is fighting about things the political figures on either end don’t actually care about, so you vote for those issues instead of the ones that prevent the ever increasing cancer that is billionaires.
Its all a distraction.
There not getting votes from moderates now! Why is it somehow smart and good to go, “wow, moderates didn’t vote for us, I guess we have to get more moderate,” but it’s somehow dumb to say, “the left didn’t vote for us, maybe we should go more left?”
Especially because, according the Pew Research Center, you’re, “the left doesn’t vote,” premise is a lie, and people on the far-left and far-right are more likely to vote, donate, and attend rallies than people in the center?
What makes you think moderates arent voting for democrats?
Because they keep fucking losing when they try to pick up moderates. In 2016, Chuck Schumer makes a grand prediction that Democrats will pick up two moderates for every one working-class voter they lose. Turns out they just lost working class voters. A NY Times study showed that hidden Trump voters were much more likely to be moderates. 2020, Biden went much farther to the left than Hillary, and he did better than her with not only moderates but conservatives. Harris campaigned with Liz Cheney to try and flip moderates, and she wound up doing 11 points worse than Biden with moderates.
The Democrats won big with a moderate message exactly once in 1992 when Bill Clinton beat Bush, and they’ve been chasing that high ever since, even though they keep losing. Gore? Moderate, loser. Kerry? Moderate, loser. Obama? Progressive (at least in platform, he pivoted hard to the center almost immediately), winner. And we’ve already been over Hillary, Biden, and Harris.
The data is in. Chasing moderate voters is a much worse strategy than having a robust, progressive platform. But they keep doing this, and they keep losing. It’s ridiculous.
Biden catered to moderates in 2020 and wouldn’t have won without them.
So you are wrong. Moderates are voting for democrats.
Yeah, no shit, that’s literally in my comment! Maybe try rereading it and getting back to me.
