• FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    How is this keeping to open source philosophies in any way?

    “No, you can’t work on this, you’re Russian.”

    I don’t support the Russian Government or its actions in any way, but these devs are probably not part of it. They maintain drivers for fucking ASUS hardware.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      24 days ago

      This has nothing to do with open source. If Russians want to work on the Linux kernel, they’re absolutely free to do so, because the source code is free and open source. What they are being restricted from is getting their changes submitted to the normal Linux foundation trees. FOSS doesn’t mean you’re entitled to have the maintainer of a project look at your patches, it means you can use the software however you want.

      And yeah, it makes me sad that Russian kernel maintainers are being excluded. That doesn’t mean it’s a violation of open source philosophies (a maintainer can exclude anyone they want for any reason), it just means it’s an unfortunate policy due to international sanctions.

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        24 days ago

        I actually just emailed RMS about this and I’m genuinely curious what he says. If anyone else is interested, I’ll ask if he’s fine with me sharing some of the response.

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            19 days ago

            He never said that. I agree he was more skeptical than I’d like, but he eventually was informed and apologized.

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              19 days ago

              You are mistaken:

              “The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, ‘prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia’ also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally–but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness.”

              RMS on June 28th, 2003

              "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren’t voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing. "

              RMS on June 5th, 2006

              "There is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children.

              RMS on Jan 4th, 2013

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                19 days ago

                None of those say it is good. I disagree with him, he also disagrees with him and apologized for saying that. But that is very different from saying its good. I don’t think alcohol is good, I also don’t think it should be illegal.

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                  19 days ago

                  None of those say it is good

                  Huh?

                  He said it’s a shame that paedophilia is outlawed and that it was narrow-mindedness that made it so.

                  He said it’s untrue that having sex with children harms them.

                  And yeah, he later apologised and said he doesn’t believe it anymore… 2 days after his job became on the line.

                  Ask yourself this:

                  A man has been publicly championing raping children for decades. Publicly. He firmly believes he should have the right to fuck children.

                  News media hears about this, and now his job seems untenable.

                  All of a sudden, the man claimed changed his mind, that he’s completely reversed his opinion (that he held for decades and publicly shouted to the world). In just 2 days, he’s gone from thinking it’s a tragedy that you can’t fuck children, to thinking fucking a child is bad.

                  Do you believe him? Or do you think he’s just saying anything he can to try to keep his job?

                  I don’t think alcohol is good, I also don’t think it should be illegal.

                  There’s a big difference between “it’s unfortunate that adults can’t fuck children, it really should be legalised. People against fucking toddlers are just bigots” and “well I don’t like alcohol, but I think it should be legal”

                  How you just equated raping a child and drinking a glass of wine is beyond me. Wow.

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    24 days ago

    Yo this comment section is a dumpster fire 🔥

    edit: Remember Russian propaganda’s goal is to sabotage free discussion and conversation. They achieve this by e.g. shitting in a comment section. That might explain what’s going on here. But then again, could just be the gang that hangs in c/Technology doing their thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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      24 days ago

      I’ve contributed to open-source projects for years. My account name is my real name. I’m not a bot. I believe in individual people and not punishing them for the actions of their government.

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          22 days ago

          Nothing was or to my knowledge has yet been indicated that it is only sanctioned companies, or if it is to comply with the sanctioning of all of Russia, other than one post on Mastadon

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              22 days ago

              Yes, something that wasn’t published to my knowledge until after a xenophobic rant

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                21 days ago

                It was known beforehand.

                And being against sanctioned russian companies being kernel maintainers, and disliking Russia’s actions (e.g. invasion, mass rape, genocide) isn’t xenophobic.

                Absolutely based from Torvalds. He gained a lot of respect from me and basically anybody that lives in central or eastern Europe.

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                  20 days ago

                  It was known beforehand.

                  Source?

                  I live in Poland…

                  Also, disliking the Russian state is different from disliking Russian people