• unalivejoy@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      Honestly, if they do the same things next cycle, I’ll be more inclined to vote green.

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      Nobody is arguing the DNC isn’t out of touch.

      however the electorate isn’t much better. Cutting off their nose to spite their face.

      Nice try on the strawman though, better than some.

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      Ah yes, a perfect example of what OP was talking about. Good work finding it so we can point and laugh at the people that keep looking for someone to blame for their own choices.

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        Yeah, and your comment is a great example of the Democrats 2024 outreach strategy: a smug, self-righteous attitude that failed to get you any votes.

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          This is voting for your own best interests as a part of a country.

          What kind of fool believes that is supposed to require outreach? Would you rather visit an inept doctor because they make you feel more like a big boy by courting your feelings?

          If voters must have outreach to not show up, that means they see no difference in their own life between the candidates.

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            I don’t know what to tell you man, you need to get people excited to go vote for you, otherwise they don’t show up. It’s election 101. Harris didn’t do that for her base, so she fucking lost. You can bitch about voters all you want, but it’s not gonna change reality, so maybe that time would be better spent figuring out why they didn’t show up. Again, I’d start with the fact that she ignored her base for the fucking Cheneys.

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          They are still evil though, why it always a choice of “evil vs evil”? We don’t have to have this electoral system, we don’t have to have these candidates, humanity can do so much better. The only way anyone against genocide or the corporatist status quo could show disagreement is by not voting. If democrats always have the lefts vote no matter what, then they wouldn’t even have to be lesser evil.

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            Not voting does nothing. Now you have trump. And who ever else is next. If the left don’t vote nobody well care about them and they can sit in their house winning about nobody represents me.

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      Yup. They fucked us royally and I’m sort of waiting to see if people organize around this. The DNC needs to go. They’ve known about Trump since 16 and this is the campaign they run? They’re trying to elect him at this point, I don’t know what else to think.

      Democrats: here’s a rock and two nickels

      Republicans: here’s everything you’ve ever wanted and all the libertarian shit you used to jerk off to.

      Liberals after the election: how did we lose??

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    IMO some of that blame game is more right wing trolling to further undermine the Democratic Party.

    Don’t stop kicking them when they’re down. Keep kicking.

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        Yeah fuck all extremists, “I want all people to have healthcare and housing” vs “I want to eradicate non-white people” are the same

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          Yeah, fuck extremists that are willing to gamble the future of 125 to 200 million Americans because they “want to win”.

          The road to fascism is paved with the best of intentions.

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            There was no way for these sham elections to be a ‘win’ for anyone but fascists and corporations. I am just impressed so many people believe that leftists actually had enough sway to tank Kamala’s campaign.

            How do you know Kamala’s winning would even be better for vulnerable people? Roe v Wade was nullified under the administration she was a key part of. On trans rights she said she would ‘follow the law’. We would have the most ‘lethal military’ and a stronger border. They have sent billions in defiance of international law to support groups committing genocide.

            And how many people voted for Kamala in her primary to earn the nomination? To protect democracy from Trump apparently we had to forego democracy.

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              How do you cope with the duality that you’re trying to force-feed me? She’s both the most inept, lying politician, and yet so intelligent and cunning that she caused us to lose Roe v. Wade.

              She and she alone is responsible for all of the horrible things that the Republicans have forced upon us.

              She caused the nullification of Roe v. Wade. She personally stripped away the rights of LGBTQ+ Americans. She personally went to Israel and started the war against Palestine. She has physically murdered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, literally. She raped your grandmother and kicked your dog.

              Did I miss anything?

              To protect democracy from Trump apparently we had to forego democracy.

              What kind of fuckin backwards ass double speak is this bullshit?

              You clearly aren’t even coherent enough to understand the ramifications of your actions. Go take a nap or something.

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    What is important is the next steps. It is obvious that the left will not win unless we are unified. Go volunteer, use these next four years to try to create the Democratic party you want to see. Make them reliant on your help and use that to push the items you are passionate about. Or you can sit on the outside and watch this country fall while complaining that the people who are actually doing something aren’t doing enough.

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    I think it was both playing chicken against each other. Dem leadership refused to listen to “progressives”, I E.: things that most Americans wanted, and the voters refused to vote until the Dems listened to them.

    So they crashed into each other and now the country is going to burn down.

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    The tactic of shaming and blaming voters LOST. I understand where you’re coming from but stop doing LOSER shit if you don’t want to keep LOSING