Let me start by explaining where I’m coming from. I’m pretty much a standard Windows user. I liked XP, I was ok with 7 and ok with 10. But overall I don’t like a lot of things about Windows I think we can all agree on; business practices, spying, lack of customization, cost, etc.

In the past, I have tried to move to Linux more than once including a failed dual boot situation. There are things I really, really like about Linux that I can’t believe aren’t part of Windows. Despite that I really hate Linux. I’ll explain that opinion so you can trash me with facts. Just understand that this is the way I see it.

First, being primarily a Windows user means I am uncomfortable with using all of the little squiggles around the outside of the keyboard to get things done. At one point I was using the most Windows-like version where I could click and download a package which was fine, but eventually I found one that had to be done manually, so this feels like inconsistency. In the dual boot situation I found myself using Windows constantly because I could not get online with Linux for some reason, which meant I had to boot in Windows to research the problem only in the end to have people tell me that the components of the computer I built were too new and I would have to wait for someone to write drivers. There are a lot of equivalent programs in Linux to Windows and I use some of them now, like Open Office, Audacity(which I love), Firefox( which I hate) and probably more I can’t think of at the moment. I currently have a computer attached to my TV that I made really cheap from parts I had laying around and I’m running Mint on it. The only thing it is used for is watching YouTube videos on the big screen, usually exercise videos. It IS a problem. It loads up ridiculously slow.

So my experience has been bad overall every time I try and yes I realize I’m not doing it right. I’m not a typical Linux user.

But here’s the thing, I WANT to be a Linux user mostly because I hate Microsoft so much. And now especially because according to Lemmy Windows 11 is a shit show of advertising and other crap and apparently my roughly 2 year old and still fairly powerful desktop does not meet their requirements due to that stupid chip it needs to have. I do not wish to buy a new computer and I do not wish to be a Windows slave again.

So the question is, is there hope for me giving this another try? I’m not a power user but I do use my computer for a lot of things. I will get specific here.

  1. Surfing the net. It needs to NOT lag or fail to connect.

  2. I play games with my friend online every Monday. Most of the games are on Steam. So far we have played: Borderlands Borderlands 2 Borderlands 3 Borderlands the pre sequel Tiny Tina’s Wonderland Diablo 4 Grimm Dawn Aliens fire team elite

  3. I edit videos. I use Sony Vegas pro 13. It was expensive and I’m used to it. It is important to me.

  4. I do some word processing and spreadsheet stuff. Currently I use Open Office as I mentioned.

  5. Audio conversion and manipulation with Audacity.

  6. Drawing and photo manipulation. I use a variety of programs. The most important ones in order are CorelCad. It is basically AutoCad and was expensive to buy and I’m used to it. Fusion 360, also important for 3D printing. Prusa slicer for 3D printing and one called Photofiltre. It’s a simple free program I believe does have a Linux version. These are important to me.

  7. Programming microcontrollers for projects using the Arduino IDE.

  8. I use a program called Vetric which programs the tool path for my CNC router.

  9. A number of smaller more rarely used programs like one to convert a font into hexadecimal, one that normalizes mp3 files, one that captures what I do on the screen, etc.

If I had it my way, I would just continue using Windows 10. I more or less know how it works and it really doesn’t give me any problems. However with this end of life thing approaching I will eventually need to migrate somehow for security’s sake, right? I mean I don’t even know if half of these programs will be compatible with Windows 11.

I should also mention that I’m a goal oriented person. I just want to use it, I don’t want to tinker with it. That goes for pretty much any tool. I consider the OS a tool.

So given that encyclopedia of information, do you think I could/should give Linux another try? If so, which distro should I go with that will be the most compatible with my hardware and usage?

Regarding hardware, I’m not home now so just genetically I have an AMD Rhyzen 7 processor, a Radeon video card, sort of upper mid tier, 32 GB of RAM, decent motherboard and a boatload of storage.

Feel free to ask questions and I will now don my flameproof jacket for the absolute shit storm of criticism in guessing that’s heading my way. Thank you in advance.

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    Windows 10 and 11 LTSC are slimmed down, official versions of Windows that can be downloaded from links found here. An activator with instructions can be found from the same source.

    If you really can’t switch to Linux, then use what works. There are multiple ways of cutting down on telemetry as well. O&O Shutup 10++ is a very good starting point.

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    Personally, I think you are probably stuck with Windows for now, since I imagine you really don’t want to learn a whole slew of new programs (that might or might not do everything you want) in my very uninformed opinion.

    Internet connectivity should be mostly fine but that can depend on hardware sometimes.

    Gaming is in general not a problem if you have Steam, Heroic, Lutris, Bottles and Protonup QT. But look into ProtonDB to see which runs and which doesn’t.

    But for much of the professional software it will become a hassle. You could look into CrossOver by Codeweavers (a paid version of Wine) and see what compatability that brings. But for the most part I think you would probably have to setup a Windows Virtual Machine with GPU Passthrough.

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    Just as a heads up LibreOffice is preferred over OpenOffice. It’s basically the same program but it actually gets updates etc. OpenOffice is dead.

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    …apparently my roughly 2 year old and still fairly powerful desktop does not meet their requirements due to that stupid chip it needs to have. I do not wish to buy a new computer and I do not wish to be a Windows slave again.

    https://github.com/builtbybel/Flyby11 will allow you to install on any older hardware by using the Server install method that skips the hardware check for TPM. That said, a 2 year-old PC could actually have TPM. My 5 year-old gaming rig does, and so does my 2015 with an i5 6xxx. Maybe your PC TPM defaults to a disabled state, or perhaps it really is not present.

    Audacity(which I love)…

    Tenacity is the preferred, privacy respecting fork of Audacity. Platform agnostic.

    But here’s the thing, I WANT to be a Linux user…

    And you can, but it sounds like you should probably keep using dual boot and learn Linux as you go. You can likely play your games on Linux (check protondb.com for compatibility and tips), but your list of required apps may be beyond your current ability to use on Linux.

    However, with some time and experimentation, I suspect you’ll find the tools available for Linux might be superior to what you use in Windows. Like your mp3 normalization options are likely more varied and robust in Linux.

    I do not wish to be a Windows slave again.

    The only way to achieve this is to keep working with Linux to gain experience. In the meantime, there are tools and methods to limit the spying and put control of your Windows PC back in your hands.

    You can block unwanted version upgrades with an app like Steve Gibson’s incontrol.

    Install your chosen app-level firewall to block telemetry.

    Utilize one of the popular privacy scripts (disclaimer: can easily break functionality of your PC, but easy to roll back, just make sure to save the corresponding reversion script to negate tie changes) like privacy.sexy to disable unwanted features of Windows.

    All that said, it sounds like your first Linux experience had been somewhat typical, with some bumps and learning involved. I applaud you for the effort 👏. Keep learning and keep trying to move more of your workflow to Linux. The past five years has brought a lot more from being Windows only into Linux then ever before.

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      Wow this was a lot of great information. Thank you so much.

      I was hesitant to ask the question here but now I’m glad I did. I assumed my computer didn’t have the chip because a Windows check said it didn’t meet. I didn’t know it was something that could be enabled in firmware. If that’s not the case I’m glad there might be a work around too!

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    Try this: 1) download a Linux distro ISO (recommend Mint Cinnamon because of help forum) 2) Use ETCHER to burn it onto an EMPTY USB stick (4G is enuf; ERASE it if it’s not new). 3) Insert the stick into a USB port, reboot and get into your BIOS. 4) Do not use SecureBoot, Try to use a LEGACY boot instead of UEFI (if your BIOS has that option).
    4. Now use your BIOS to boot from the stick.

    If all of that works you have booted from the stick and see the Mint OS Icon. Then you’re in a ‘LIVE USB’ session with the option to install Linux to your drive at the upper left (I think, don’t use Cinnamon). No hurry. Just live there, and maybe go through all of that 1 or 2 more times.

    Just take time to get used to the OS for a while. You need to make sure that there’s room on the drive for the install. 20-25GB is plenty. So your ‘BOATLOAD’ should be more than enough. (You can also install it on -another- drive if you like. SO easy!)

    Find a web page or video that comfortably helps YOU understand the install process (a snap, until you get to the important page where you tell it WHERE to install the OS). Be sure you have prepared the drive (if need be) before you do the install. ENJOY (I’ve done a -lot- of LM installs. Only ONCE from a Windows environment, NEVER again.)

    In case of any snags, the busy and help Mint Forum page is here: https://forums.linuxmint.com/

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    Controversial opinion, just use Windows. There is no reason for you to switch and every reason for you not to. No Linux distribution will do everything thing you want and no Linux distro will do half the things you mentioned without significant tinkering. If you really want to keep Windows 10 just use Windows 10 LTSC, alternatively you can just switch to Windows 11. Granted Windows 11 is worse than Windows 10 but itll be more than serviceable for your needs.

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    I love Linux but I don’t think it’s for you yet, at least not with a lot of sacrifices and compromises. If 3 and 6 and possibly 8 are non-negotiable then they’re dealbreakers. Some of it can be somewhat handled with things like virtual machines and GPU passthrough but that will absolutely be a bunch of terminal stuff to get running well, and possibly extra hardware.

    I should also mention that I’m a goal oriented person. I just want to use it, I don’t want to tinker with it. That goes for pretty much any tool. I consider the OS a tool.

    Sometimes, achieving goals require upgrading your skills and taking the time to learn them properly, and for Linux the terminal is the most powerful tool you could have. We don’t use it because we have to, we use it because it’s a powerful tool that can get just about anything done.

    In your case, using tools to debloat Windows might be the best bet. I’ve been using winutil for my Windows VMs, works great and removes most of the crap: https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil

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            So…it’s not the things he says, or the content of his words, but rather a personal feeling.

            I get it. I’m that way with certain speaking styles. If someone talks too slow, or WAAAAAAAY too energetic, I tend to not like them. Also, certain accients I don’t like. (Southern usa drawl, Indian, British women). And some accients I love. (Latino, Irish, Asian women, Australian, British men).

            Also can’t stand those voices that end each statement in a higher inflection so it sounds like a question.

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        Good thing you don’t need to watch his videos to use his tools. Not a huge fan either, but the tool works and gets the job done. I wouldn’t use linutil because it’s kind of a mess, and I imagine winutil ain’t that much better, but I don’t know how to do all those tweaks myself so I welcome them anyway. If it’s useful to at least one person then it has some value.

        I we cared that much about the people behind the software rather than the software on its own merits, we’d be rushing to eliminate GNU from our systems because RMS is known for some pretty disgusting takes. The guy behind Hyprland is also fairly toxic, but Hyprland is still nice.

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      Thank you for that. I was thinking if I felt I had to stick with Windows, I would do my best to de-Windows it.

      I hear you on the skills and I’ll put it this way. I’m not prepared to learn Russian to get the job done, but I AM willing to learn enough Russian to order off the menu if you know what I mean.

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    the list of things you’d like to be able to seamlessly transition over is kinda… well, that’s a lot of stuff. anyone claiming you can pull this off whilst maintaining any semblance of productivity is deluded.

    my advice would be, get yourself a second machine. powerful hardware is stupid cheap nowadays and you can get a semi-competent laptop in the $100 region. take your time setting it up, always having the option to tear everything down and start over as it’s not your primary rig. start with a beginner friendly distro, Mint or Ubuntu, try 'em both and see which you like better.

    then, just start doing the things from the list. item 1, easy-peasy. item 7 next, huh that was easy. next item 4, then 5… you’re gradually transitioning, without any downtime and always having the fallback option of your existing setup. before you know it, you’re a Linux user!

    by the time you figure all this stuff out, you’ll have the knowledge and confidence to nuke windows for good and jump in both feet, not to mention - your laptop as a fallback.

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        I disagree on both them counts. for an intermediate user, sure. for a try-to-dip-their-toes first-time user, absolutely not.

        VMs are OK for one-off or compartmentalised tasks. running linux on anything but bare metal is a sub-optimal experience and off-putting. it’s essential for the user to get the feedback in snappy and satisfying response to their actions, which is easily accomplished even on 10-year old hardware, while being a tall order for any VM deployment. not to mention, any intense graphic use (an important part of OP’s spec) is nothing but crap in that scenario.

        dual-boot scenarios are not for beginners. a) you can fuck something up and thus relieve you of a safe fall-back and b) you can’t switch between workstation #1 and #2 concurrently, reboots are jarring focus breakers.

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    Switched last year. If you’d rather write a page of text whining instead of leaning how to use Google, let alone anything harder… Just use Windows. Nobody cares, especially in this tiny community. You’ve already nailed the problem and nobody wants to interest the time trying to make you barely competent at life, let alone be some stupid free Linux coach.

    You could solve any of these problems in like 30 seconds of googling it. But here you are instead.

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    I do use my computer for a lot of [specific and diverse] things.

    I just want to use it, I don’t want to tinker with it.

    I do not wish to buy a new computer and I do not wish to be a Windows slave again.

    I think you’re going to have to pick two, at least for now.

    Software ecosystems are large and complex, especially for users with needs as diverse as yours. Microsoft and Apple have managed to more-or-less tame them through decades of work by a great many employees, market dominance (compelling other companies to do much of the work for them), and an almost inconceivable amount of money.

    Free software ecosystems are developed mostly by individuals solving their own problems in whatever unpaid time they can spare. We’re very lucky to have them at all. They are steadily improving, are already impressive in some areas, and a few components are even sponsored these days, but I think it will be a while before these ecosystems cover as many different tasks as you’re describing with as much polish as you demand.

    Some of us accept this, and are willing to invest time and effort into becoming proficient with free tools and their quirks, in exchange for a computing experience without the tentacles of capitalism. Others don’t have the time or patience for that, but are willing to make do with a smaller set of tools in exchange for that freedom. Either of these approaches can be a good trade-off, but they’re not for everyone.

    If you can’t or won’t budge, then it might be best put your Linux hopes aside for now, and see how the ecosystem looks in another 10 years.

    Surfing the net. It needs to NOT lag or fail to connect.

    If you have been lucky enough to avoid such things so far, then I salute you and hope your good luck continues. No computer or operating system is immune to problematic network connections or services.

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      That actually was the driver of the question because it’s been years since I last tried and wanted to know how much had changed. I am very much of the mindset of shedding this hated ball and chain but, yeah, not willing to give up things I strongly rely on.

      As far as the connection goes I’m not saying it can’t stumble from time to time but the two issues I had with Linux in the past was that it simply wouldn’t connect AT ALL. And currently when I pull up the Linux box on the TV to exercise, I might as well go make a smoothie while I’m waiting for a video to load. This is only acceptable because I didn’t want to pay for an OS for that machine and I don’t use it often. After the initial video loads, it runs pretty much normally.

      On my Windows machine everything loads pretty quickly under normal circumstances. I’m pretty satisfied.

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        the two issues I had with Linux in the past was that it simply wouldn’t connect AT ALL.

        Yeah, that’s frustrating. It’s usually result of buying network hardware whose manufacturer neither supports Linux nor releases the specs that would allow the community to do the work for them. (Another sad effect of Microsoft’s market dominance.) Sometimes a working driver or firmware can be manually installed or enabled. Other times, the only sane fix is to buy/beg/borrow a better network card.

        Next time you’re hardware shopping, it might be worthwhile to pick something with a known-good network chip, or just buying from a vendor that offers Linux preinstalled.

        And currently when I pull up the Linux box on the TV to exercise, I might as well go make a smoothie while I’m waiting for a video to load.

        I hate waiting for machines, too. Slow boot can be caused by a number of things, but the most common one is probably just plain old slow storage media. If you’re booting from a slow USB drive or SD card, you’ll probably get better results by using a faster one. (I’m assuming the machine you built from cheap parts is capable of fast storage and not memory-starved.)

        For what it’s worth, my Linux systems are fast and have no network trouble, so it’s definitely possible to achieve. (Even the Raspberry Pi that drives my TV.)

        I hope you get it figured out!

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          Actually the boot on the Linux box is fast it’s only loading the first YouTube video that’s a problem but it seems to be as problem whether I use Firefox or chromium.

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            Are you using flatpack or normal installs of firefox/chromium?

            Do you have a bunch of/ any addons?

            It really shouldn’t load very slow.

            I have some VERY old systems. One with only 3GB RAM and the onboard video out to DisplayPort to an HDMI adapter.

            Loads fine.

            Vivaldi runs much faster though.


            Consider disabling background services and apps you don’t need.

            Mint xfce is a super lightweight version. Can be customized in nearly infinite ways to match your needs.

            Any Linux DE or distro you choose will require some learning, some tinkering.

            Imagine being a new user to windows nowadays and trying to figure out where your settings are. Are they in control panel, settings, msinfo, or some other command line only accessible thing, what do these hexcodes in this registry thing mean?

            If you choose to do a little learning and a little tinkering, you choose the ability to do things your way. Sometimes it’s simple. Sometimes it isn’t. But for the most part, for most people, any problem is a simple fix.

            The best resources i know of are The Arch wiki for setup and config for almost everything; overstack for those unique or odd questions; and your distros docs and community pages.

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              I’m not sure what flatpack means. The install is pretty bare bones. The only thing I use it for is literally surfing the web on a screen big enough for others to enjoy, including YouTube. That’s it.

              I really don’t know what any of the settings are as I configured it years ago by researching in the web back then.

              I know what you mean about learning for the first time. In fact that’s another complaint I have about Windows. They keep changing how things are done and dumbing it down each time. Instead of programs they are apps now. Which means sometimes there IS no File, Edit, etc at the top to change settings in programs. It also means when I read instructions for some company perhaps and they refer to the app, do they mean it’s only available on my phone or do they mean an app on my computer. Argh.

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    Linux is different to Windows; to use it you have to accept the differences to a certain extent.

    Having said that, the examples you give of frustrations sound like you didn’t get far with Linux, and I wonder if part of the problem is just making the effort to get used to it? But I also wonder whether Linux is just not for you, given your software needs.

    A few things you should be aware of for your use scenarios:

    • You can install a virtual machine and run Windows in it, with a license if you want, for your edge scenarios of specific programs you use. It will take some minor effort to do but I have Windows 11 installed in a KVM machine on my Linux machine for the rare times I want to use my Work Office account. I prefer it to the web version. However it will be more problematic for high end graphics software; you will probably want a dual boot system for native graphics access for that. There is a route of getting a second graphics card just for your virtual Windows machine but I’m not sure that sounds like a route you’d want to go down?
    • Many games just work now with Linux and Steam Proton (or other Wine/Proton derived systems). However if you want to guarantee they work all the time then again you will have to dual boot windows. I have Windows 10 installed on it’s own drive on my PC; I haven’t used it in months but it’s there for gaming in case something doesn’t work. So yes I have 2 windows licenses on my PC; rarely used but there to cover all use scenarios for me. That is extreme and in your case I’d probably just keep 1 and dual boot but both are doable.
    • Linux is much more user friendly than it used to be, and drivers are generally well kept up to date including for new devices but there is often a lag for the cutting edge systems as manufacturers target Windows for launch. I would take a different attitude to you regarding devices - if they’ve not got Linux drivers I don’t want to be stuck with a lemon device in my PC. Your graphics card (AMD) is well supported; and I’d be amazed if your network drivers don’t work in this day and age - use a USB live distro to test those things
    • If you are going to use Linux then I’d strongly recommend KDE as a desktop as the default paradigm is very familiar for windows users. It is also very flexible and you can make pretty much any GUI you like out of it, but at the start it just works and is familiar. I would not touch Gnome if I were you - it is very different to windows and you don’t seem like the kind of person who would tolerate it’s restrictive design philosophy. Other windows like DEs include Cinnamon on Linux Mint (There are many more but I think Cinnamon or KDE would be best, depending very much on which Distro you want to use).
    • There are open source alternative for much of the software you use, but some of what you use may also run natively using Wine. However you’d have to be prepared to tinker and test to get there.

    Overall however, I’d suggest that if you’re so locked in to propriety software then Linux may not be right for you. While you may prefer it to Windows in many ways on paper, ultimately the companies whose propriety products you have bought and like are not generally interested in supporting Linux. So you have a choice - either you accept being locked in to your vendors including their choice of windows, or you look at Linux supporting alternatives (open source or propriety), or you accept a hybrid set up of dual booting (which didn’t work for you previously). Only you can decide whether you’re willing to make the multiple shifts in preferred software you’d probably need to make to be able to use Linux as your daily driver.

    If you do want to go down the Linux route; then personally I’d suggest OpenSuSe Leap - it’s KDE based, it’s a stable point release base, and has decent support, and is designed to be both a home desktop distro and a more professional work device. Linux Mint would also be a good place to start - Cinnamon is very windows like, and there is loads of support on the web as it’s so popular.

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    Distro wise mint is probably your best bet.

    Dependency on proprietary software will be a problem. Maybe it will run via wine. Maybe not. Maybe it will work for a short bit and then inexplicably break. It’s proprietary and there isn’t much recourse. However there are a lot of good alternatives that are available under multiple operating systems.

    My two biggest recommendations are look for systems that are either made to run Linux like something from tuxedo or system 76. Or spend $100 on eBay getting an old Lenovo Dell or HP business tower. (Not laptop. Laptop can get into some really weird fucky proprietary stuff.) They’re generally built from solid lowest common denominator Parts with wide support.

    Dual booting sounds nice. But it gets to be a real hassle most the time unless you absolutely need it. If you have a system separate just to use and learn Linux on. You WILL have a better time. 4th and 6th generation Intel i7 business Towers are still extremely usable today.

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        The nice thing is. If you have a separate system running Linux etc. Even if for whatever reason you are not able to completely replace some of the windows software. You can simply unplug or take the windows Tower off the network or block its access to the internet but still have access to the vital software you need. It will give you a lot more flexibility and security

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    I’m a goal oriented person. I just want to use it, I don’t want to tinker with it.

    I intended to recommend to you, you’d then better continue using Windows 10. Since that’s working for you and you got it set up. But I realize support will end next year already.

    I mean the Linux user experience won’t change fundamentally. You’d better get used to it, or think about some alternative solution. Or pick the distro you like best and just live with the one or two edge cases. I’ve come to realize that Windows people have started to realize the advantages of scripting and the command line (Power shell) as well, and nowadays the admins started doing similar things that they’ve previously looked down upon… I see how an ordinary user would prefer to just click on something… But some parts (especially) of Linux had been made with the power user in mind. And no one got around implementing some simple UI (yet). I mean it is how it is. Linux also isn’t 100% perfect.

    Regular stuff should work. And it should be minimum as fast as Windows. If you’re installing it on cheap and old hardware (with your TV set), I’m not sure if slowness is the operating system’s fault, or if it’s just the slow hardware that struggles with the modern and demanding video codecs.

    I wish you the best and that you’ll find some acceptable solution. I think at first you need to sort out the network driver issue. If it’s necessary, just spend the $20 for a new network card. I think Linux is doing a decent job in supporting a lot of hardware. But coverage isn’t 100%, even today. And the situation is fairly good compared to the old days. And the issue goes both ways. I also own hardware that isn’t supported by Windows (any more). That’s the cost of switching operating systems.

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      Yeah, I read that this new windows thing was supposed to put 240M computers on the trash heap. I figured that that was a lot and maybe Microsoft would do something due to the outrage, but it hasn’t happened yet. I mean what are major corporations going to do? Replace every computer? I suppose they could and just pass the cost to the customer.

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        This is less of an issue to companies anyway. A lot of them do leasing and those machines will get returned and replaced regularly. I think generally, most companies replace their workstations and laptops every 3 to 5 years. They’re not deductible from taxes after a certain point and they might as well get new and faster ones and not deal with old things failing. It’s a different story for consumers, though. But no one really cares for the consumers. (Or the environment, if that contradicts with making profit.)

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    I don’t know the answer to all your issues, however, I have seen these distros been mentioned elsewhere in similar discussions so maybe have a look and see if they fit your profile:

    I have not used the ones above, I am using PopOS myself, so throwing that hat in the ring as well.