Unfortunately, I’ve had plenty of conversations here with people who think exactly this.

So yes, there are people who literally think this.

Not about that. They have some misguided notion that Russia stands for some imaginary form of communism that is the answer to everything.

And everything bad in the world is because of Capitalism. And also, everything west of Russia is “The west” and the entire “the west” is one entity.

It’s a .ml community. What did you expect?

I guess that’s a problem with trying to have discussion with trolls, they just repeat a script and are unable to engage with the actual points being made.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

You said that in response to me talking about how “startup culture” has developed in the US. Can you stay in topic for a single comment?

I just explained to you why many startups in the US fail. It’s in the comment you just responded to.

The only clown here is you, so used to the makeup you can’t even remember it’s there.

“Occupied korea”, still laughing at that one. Thank you for outing yourself like the koala you are.

At least we can both agree that we wish you could live in the USSR during Stalins era.

I’ll be honest. I was going to stop after you seemed to think millions of people get severely affected by startup companies failing.

But I powered through until I reached “occupied korea” to which I assume you’re talking about South Korea.

There’s nothing to gain here. “Quarterly targets” is your idea of underlying mechanics? Holy shit. This reminds me of the guy arguing about food with someone that drank their own piss.

“Vassals of the US empire”

You’ve departed reality a long time ago.

So you are focusing on the US in particular. And no. All information here is not applicable to all countries in “the west”*

The US has a long history of non regulatory practices. Yes. They have plenty of short sighted companies that thrive on short term high risk strategies to gain fast expansion to which they can then fall to for more controlled growth (at least that’s supposed to be the plan). Partly due to how bankruptcy laws and business loans are stipulated.

The consequence of failing dramatically isn’t that severe. You can just try again.

But this falls back to what you seemingly cannot comprehend. “The west” is not the US. The US is not “The west”.

And US have plenty of companies that are very boring and engadge in long term plans where short term losses are accepted as part of long term growth. But like I’ve said. You won’t find them in your feed because it’s incredibly boring and normal. Just like you don’t read in the news about Jonathan that had 2 sandwiches for breakfast. It’s not newsworthy.

You’ve offered very little explanation of anything. More akin to. “It’s this way because I say so, oh and its the underlying mechanic of all global trade everywhere”, I’m not sure why you’re trying to claim i don’t put in any arguments. There is plenty of them. But you elect to not adress any and default to some kind of insult because you have nothing to respond with.

I’m not screeching for details. I’m asking you to provide any at all. You speak in these globally broad terms because hey, at least they will apply somewhere. But things are just not that simple.

My reading comprehension is just fine. But if you have nothing but insults to strike back with. That says more about you than me.

*I assume you consider all countries in “the west” and by “the west” I also assume you mean every country located west of Russia and North of South America. Feel free to correct me if that assumption is wrong.

Yeah you have not interest in anything that has to do with reason.

Underlying mechanics. Such as what exactly? What underlying mechanic are you referring to that is the same everywhere? You want so badly to dumb it down to a level you can understand but it’s just not that simple.

You’re trying to derive a problem without considering that you might just have more than 1 root.

And I’ve explained to you the mechanic of “short term investing to maximize profits” are just buzzwords you use. Like a child saying words they hear on TV without understanding their meaning.

Can you for once actually be specific? What industry? What country?

What money back? I told you i live in a social democratic welfare state. Education is free for all citizens. But I’m sure you have a degree in economics and know better. Right?

We see different crashes in different sectors, in different countries for reasons so much more complex than i can explain to you here. You’re talking full on course material. Not that you would care to listen anyway.

So which one are you referring to exactly? Which country to start with. There is not one singular capitalistic system that encompasses them all. Reality is more nuanced than that.

This is proof of how you are being dishonest when you keep referring to “the west” and “the capitalist system”. You’ve been on lemmy preaching this stuff for how long exactly?

You are so clearly projecting here, it’s not even funny.

And that is another fantastic “nuh uh. You are!” What a response.

My man. You are not quite right.

He didn’t say he was surprised some companies did. He simply states that they should have known better. Which a lot of companies did. For every company that invested in Russia, you have 10 that didn’t.

But you are so hyperfocused on this “the west” branding.

There are so many different rules and regulations for different countries in how businesses are allowed to operate and invest.

And it’s so much more nuanced than just profits and stock value. You plan for decrease as well. Because it will happen. I don’t know what you do for a loving. But I’m in economics. And your description of reality does not fit the large majority of serious enterprises. But yes. You also have those that takes risks. You often hear about them as they fail or post huge losses. The ones that grow by 3-5% in a steady pace over 40 years isn’t as noteworthy to write about.

But you are so clearly being dishonest and disingenuous on purpose to paint a picture of the global market that doesn’t reflect reality.

If someone trips over themselves and breaks a leg I’m sure you’d find a way to blame “the west” and “capitalism” for it, followed by a study in how walking accidents increase as availability to sidewalks increase because the capitalistic sidewalk companies are forcing “the west” to build more sidewalks.

You have a fantastic ability to not actually answer anything while at the same time just keep throwing pasta at the wall and see what sticks.

It doesn’t matter what anyone responds with because you will simply say “nuh uh” and move on to the next.

If you want to actually adress anything. Feel free to do so and we can continue to have a conversation.

I live under a fully functional social democratic welfare state. But it’s adorable that you think you can assume whatever suits your agenda.

Books have been written about how the earth is actually flat instead of a spherical. That doesn’t mean the content is correct.

Truth is, writing headlines about companies that every 5 years put together a solid and safe 20 year plan in accordance to previous estimates and slowly pulling out investments and assets from places where the risk of geopolitical conflict is higher than the norm, just simply doesn’t generate a lot of clicks.

That’s an opinion you have. Not a factual ideology of what makes capitalism, capitalism.

You can certainly think that’s how some businesses operate, and I’m sure plenty do take short term risks. But to call that a cornerstone of capitalism is at best uninformed.

He didn’t say he was thinking they would or wouldn’t. He said he doesn’t think they should. Those are two different words that mean two different things.

When I say, Russia shouldn’t push their polotical opposition out of windows. I’m not saying I don’t think they would. I’m saying I don’t think they should.

What part of his comment makes you think he doesn’t understand what he’s talking about?

He’s very clearly stating to the companies. Don’t blame the West for sanctioning Russia, blame Russia for engadging in activities that warrants sanctioning, and blame yourself for increasing your investments when the writing was on the wall since at least 2014

Ah yes, everyone else fault. Not that you come in here with the dumbest claim, refuse to explain it, and then just try to shit on everyone calling you out on your idiocy.

And what is you think west does that it always has? You can never say anything specific. It’s always vague nonsense.

NATO is a military alliance. Being part of NATO does not grant you any benefits in any market beyond perhaps weapon sales.

Being part of NATO has no meaning when it comes to game development, and sales, global otherwise.

So again. I ask the question. Why do you think NATO has anything to do with the topic?

What point is it you think he made clear?

If they want to protect their developers. They would help them succeed on the global market. Make it easier for them to compete.

I don’t think you have the slightest clue about what NATO actually is.

Because they have nothing to do with Vietnam choosing to ban steam.

What exactly do you think NATO has to do with this situation?