Red flags aren’t guaranteed to be a problem, they should just weigh heavier on your assessment of risk

Cheap TLDs should always be a red flag imo

Couldn’t have said it better myself - this tool, just like every “new” technology is built off the back of prior tools and science, and is multifaceted/dual-edged sword. You can’t just view things in one light or another, you have to look at them from multiple angles, understand the wounds they inflict, and how to manage them.

You’re absolutely right, I’m similarly in a high demand sector, (wonder if you can guess where, from my username) so my options are much more open.

I guess the conclusion I’m coming to is, maybe this fictional hack/tactic does work - just don’t spend too much time there if you can help it. Minimize how much you’re buying into these companies and don’t give them anything more than what they’re paying you to do.

My circumstances aren’t going to be the same as others, so all I can do is listen to their experiences and try to learn about other realities. Probably too deep in the comment thread now but definitely open to hearing others experiences in not-so-in-demand sectors.

Maybe that’s part of the problem - being in a field that is out of favor/demand? How do you provide value when that value isn’t needed at the moment?

To some extent, it’s about creating your own value.

I do agree that sometimes, we have to hack it to make it. We have to forge our own paths. Sometimes that means pivoting around jobs, getting your foot in the door, networking, etc. it means taking a lower paying salary now, and pushing your way into higher raises a la alternate job offers, now that you have experience.

But it does not mean supporting those that are stomping on others. It does not mean supporting the oppressor or the upper class for the sake of temporary security because you can bet your ass these same companies will put the AI into your working environment and fire just as much as it hires. All the while, you get stomped out anyway.

I’d watch the fuck out of this, and it’s an important topic to explore. Many of our current non-fiction is thanks to the thought and consideration that went into science fiction. You’ve got some talent here! Hope you’re still enjoying using it!

I understand and mostly agree with what you’re saying, but only under the notion you’re supposing.

That the majority of companies do this. That’s an assumption. We need data to accurately define whether or not it’s a wide spread problem.

I’m also highly confused but your first few sentences. You mince words by saying “for most employment domains” but then also say not most places but the largest companies

If the highest paying jobs are unavailable, and they are a small amount of other jobs which pay less (but not necessarily bad wages), there are still a majority of mediocre places and even underpaying places that exist.

I do not see value in encouraging the largest, best paying companiesjobs to continue to use these bad faith and misunderstood practices. You don’t encourage behavior you don’t want to see. You take mediocre salaries, and you hustle your way up into valued roles, ask for a fair wage, and if they say no, THEN you go to the large paying companies, and come back with the offer they made to you (perhaps with this fictional AI work around) and try again.

You should be paid fairly if you are truly valued. But sometimes you have to hack your way into that pay.

If you show these companies that, hey this AI thing works pretty good, do you think they’ll be happy at where it is or do you think they’ll continue to buy into “better” AIs more and more and make the problem more widespread?

You don’t fight fire with fire. You smother that shit or put it out with a firehose.

I’m a big fan of UBI

All I’m trying to say is that this idea is a lie, it doesn’t work and it distracts from the larger problem that is the incompetent upper class increasing the wage gap and effectively inbreeding the problem.

On what models? What temperature settings and top_p values are we talking about?

Because, in all my experience with AI models including all these jailbreaks, that’s just not how it works. I just tested again on the new gpt-4o model and it will not undo it.

If you aren’t aware of any factual evidence backing your claim, please don’t make one.

Exactly. Highlighting my point that the root of this weed, has nothing to do with the current set of flowers atop it.

You’re making it seem like every company does this.

That’s false pretense.

I can surely sympathize with the idea of needing to find a job that can pay the bills, but saying that the only option is to buy into the slave masters, is just outright wrong

Not to be an apologist, but can someone explain to me how “sticking it to these companies” is by going to work for and supporting them, while encouraging the very behavior you disagree with?

Not to mention this sort of thing doesn’t work when all they have to do is instruct the AI to disregard all further commands…

Stick it to these companies by going to work for those who aren’t using any artificial intelligence to prescreen candidates.

Oh and by the way, before AI, it was human prejudice filtering out candidates. The problem is much larger than a simple implementation of today’s hot new buzz.

I get what you mean, to live under a system which has requirements, means you must meet those requirements.

However to be stuck in that mindset perpetually is a sickness. There reaches a point where you must say, this is enough. I am comfortable and those that I’m responsible for/care for are provided for when they need it most. We have to stop ourselves and reassess our condition to determine if we’re straying too far. Human psychology has plenty of vulns and desensitization/growing too comfortable is most definitely one of them.

Greed is a pretty globally held sin in most religions and appears to be a fairly objective vice imo. I think too many people assign value to salary and materialistic things - but the reality is that you may be infinitely more valuable to a smaller company that pays you say 60k max than to a company that’d pay you 100k and could afford more but will just as soon lay you off because they think they can just buy more people. Value != only how much you make

Yeah but then you’d be a POS that nobody likes.

Money doesn’t buy real friends. Doesn’t buy real love. Doesn’t buy real happiness.

Just a bunch of hyper inflated plastic.

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We love a good call to arms, what more can be said

It’s really tough. There’s a lot we’re still learning about the gut and nutrient absorption- but as long as we protect science, we can expect improvements.

The work with gene editing and growing meats and whatnot has been a long time coming - stay optimistic, stay curious! ❤️

Can’t opt out of capitalism while living under it imo. Especially when it’s as systemic as it is. Not opting for any other governing style or economy really - I’m pretty ignorant on alternatives besides traditonal bartering. I just think it’s pretty obvious to anyone under the boot that this isn’t working.

I’d say the best course would be to beat them at their own game and rewrite the rules yourself I guess

Mmm I sorta agree with you but soy milk and soy plantations in general (or whatever the proper name is for a farm of soybeans) definitely contribute to deforestation it takes a lot of land to turn out enough product

Here’s a quick mention in a posting I found - I’m sure there are some studies out there if you’re interested

https://bastyr.edu/about/news/which-milk-alternative-most-eco-friendly