You’re right to reject the logic behind that because it’s nonsense. Its not making sense to them because they still presume some kind of good faith when it come to these sorts of things.

The reason we haven’t built more nuclear power stations is because oil, gas and coal companies will make less money, if we build more nuclear power stations.

They have the means, the motive and they have a well recorded history of being that cartoonishly villainous. Nothing else makes sense.

Its also exactly the kind of thing you’d expect to read about in the onion.

This is beyond mear irony.

Still, its nice to see the Americans have a Duke of Kennedy ruling over them aagain. It seems to make them happy.

In capitalist America, Ambulance chases you.

Its a massively growing problem in many European countries. The UK is having the same issues but some of the strictest laws on drugs in Europe.

At least you get some tax money back from it, unlike us.

Until then, you know, you just have to be true to yourself because, if you’re not being true to yourself, you’ll be living a lie.

In the end you’ve just got to remember that it is what is and you’ve got to what you’ve got to do. You gotta do your thing you, know?

So just be you but a you that’s true to yourself while going with the flow and bossing it your way, all the way.

Most of all, be lucky.

"Of course they would say that. Those Liberal, left wing universities, with their peer review, aren’t to be trusted.

These hard-right think tanks (masquerading as anything other than a glorified PR firm they are) on the other hand are the definition of unbiased knowledge"

Thats WHY they killed him. Cant have those “evil blood thirty terrorists” calling for peace now can they? That would ruin the optics of their special military operation or whatever they’re calling their invasion of Lebanon.

It’s mad that they have operatives so high up in Hezbollah that they can compromise the entirety of their means of communication in one stroke but couldn’t use those same operatives and compromised lines of communication to see the October attacks coming.

Hopefully, mossad waited long enough before doing this that no one will think to try and reconcile the two.

Some!

How do you justify ignoring everyone else telling you its bad tho?

Ironically, people say the same thing about Israel now.

Thats the one.

Yeah, I wouldn’t be able to defend Israels actions either. So, I’d would have to resort to deflections and cheap whataboutery like you too.

…they then left and a whole different bunch of white people turned up to live in the land that had been recently been stolen from the indigenous Americans.

You’d have thought that the indigenous Americans would have tried to take their land back in the time between the Europeans leaving and the Americans turning up but I guess not.

What is also true is that its the mentality of a depressive who views hope as a dangerous delusion, as had been said a fair few times now.

It is lashing out, as you can’t refute it or engage it.

Dismissing a legitimate observation of our society as a silly caricature is a far more silly caricature of someone who just doesn’t like what they’re hearing.

Existence is measured in money, under capitalism. Why would you lying about it and not meaning make any difference? As long as you’re doing what you were paid to do, it would have the same appearance and the same effect. I would take the money too, as its the most important thing in society and existance is measured in it. Thats the point here. Why would I care what was in your heart of hearts?

No, none of the other systems survived an attack by a system that cannot tolerate any alternatives to live unmolested. Had any of them failed of their own accord, you might have a point there. You can’t shoot someone in the leg and then declare that their claims of being able to run didn’t survive an encounter with reality.

Trying to improve capitalism has never survived an encounter with reality. All it did was make the rich richer.

Capitalism didn’t improve feudalism. Firstly, capitalism grew out of merchantislism. Secondly, merchantislism had to be forced on people who had been robbed of their homes and were facing starvation. Had they any other option than starving, they would have stuck with feudalism.

The first paragraph is literally the same “I can’t justify capitalism but the others are worse” argument again.

The society we live in is an employment based, market fundamentalist society. It just used to be a different kind of fundamentalist theocratic rule is all.

Instead of lashing out and calling it a silly caricature, you can just say “I just plain don’t like that.” It would have had the same effect.

That being said, how much money would it take for you to change your mind about existence being measured in terms of money alone being a silly caricature? Even if you were the type to give it all away, eventually, we would find a number. Not only that, you’d be a multi millionaire and, as such, on that basis alone, your existence would be judged as an inherently good one.

Thanks for explaining what a market is.

Its a good job we have such a thing to tell us that what we really want is to work most of our lives, mostly for someone else benefit, to endlessly produce things to a point that it destroys our planets ability to sustain life. Without such a devine oracle, we might have to ask difficult questions about what we’re doing and for whos benefit.

Its a good to know there must be such a high demand for inequality too. Without the justification of the invisible hand, we might have to think about morals and other gross stuff.

But, as you make such a good point about not being able to get rid of something and just making a black market for it, as justificationfor keeping the market in its current state

Well, that and slavery of course. If the argument works for one it works for both.

People’s theory is just fine. The problem for you is that they kept reading theory that was written after thr 1970s.

I’d say facsism is just capitalism when you try to say no.

As in literally, people tried to say no via socialism and then fascism was invented.

Thats fair, advertising and marketing departments traditionally tend to fair far better under capitalist systems.

(Capitalism is a) brutal state of affairs, profoundly inegalitarian - where all existence is evaluated in terms of money alone - is presented to us as ideal. To justify their conservatism, the partisans of the established order cannot really call it ideal or wonderful. So instead, they have decided to say that all the rest is horrible. Sure, they say, we may not live in a condition of perfect Goodness. But we’re lucky that we don’t live in a condition of Evil. Our democracy is not perfect. But it’s better than the bloody dictatorships. Capitalism is unjust. But it’s not criminal like Stalinism. We let millions of Africans die of AIDS, but we don’t make racist nationalist declarations like Milosevic. We kill Iraqis with our airplanes, but we don’t cut their throats with machetes like they do in Rwanda, etc.

Edit: In this they take on the posture of a severely depressed person who views hope as a dangerous delusion.

Exactly, the idea that you go up a floor because there’s a roof over your head is very silly.