But Android-based smartphones will be exempted from the ban. Read more at straitstimes.com.
  • Lysergid@lemmy.ml
    5·
    7 months ago

    Lol. Android phones definitely have no security concerns. Any internet/Bluetooth capable device can be potentially compromised. Just use Nokia 3310

    • UraniumBlazer@lemm.eeEnglish
      16·
      7 months ago

      They do have security/privacy concerns if you have google installed. However, with vanilla AOSP and vetted applications whose source code can be screened, you have a much much secure device than IPhones.

      • Lysergid@lemmy.ml
        2·
        6 months ago

        I’ll tell it again. You’ll have security concerns on any Internet/Bluetooth capable device. There is no software without vulnerabilities. There is software in which vulnerabilities were not found, yet. Also, the biggest attack vector is human

        • UraniumBlazer@lemm.eeEnglish
          8·
          6 months ago

          What? Sure, no software is completely hacker proof. But u can have more and less secure devices.

          That being said, the rest of ur comment just looks like a word salad to me.

        • istanbullu@lemmy.ml
          4·
          6 months ago

          this is not an argument for apple’s closed source ecosystem. at least you can improve android. you can’t imrpove apple.

        • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
          3·
          6 months ago

          Conveniently ignoring the difference between Android and iOS - moving the goalpost to BT concerns.

          That’s called sophistry.

          Where did anyone make the claims you’re arguing against?

    • bitfucker@programming.dev
      14·
      7 months ago

      Korea has the capabilities to make an android phone (Samsung). I’m pretty sure they can make Android with vetted source code and hardware. iPhone is just trust me bro™

      • Lysergid@lemmy.ml
        3·
        6 months ago

        Any software is “trust me bro” or you personally read through all source code of all software you are using? Question is can you make accountable bunch of folks from github or legal entity?

        • bitfucker@programming.dev
          10·
          6 months ago

          No, I do not since I am an individual which has no need for such high security/trust. A military of a certain nation certainly could (and probably should tbh). But I could if I wanted to, and I can’t say the same for iOS. The difference with open source is that I can choose if I trust them or see it for myself instead.

        • istanbullu@lemmy.ml
          6·
          6 months ago

          Korea can ask Samsung, a local company, to make a secure phone. No need to open the doors to American spies.

        • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
          6·
          6 months ago

          Nice that you ignored that a country (Korea) can vet code, instead setting up a strawman of “can you vet source code”.

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
      7·
      6 months ago

      Who said Android has no security concerns? That’s a strawman created by you.

      Sophistry.

      • Lysergid@lemmy.ml
        2·
        6 months ago

        I don’t know. Maybe read article. It says „Korean military”. According to them stock Android with 3rd party security app is acceptable and has no security concerns. Article itself highlights that 3rd party security apps are inferior and security holes in Android OS are basically neglected by Korean military since they will be addressed in updates at some point.

        OS does not matter when approach to security so superficial. Judging by this article Korean military has less robust security practices than some banks.

        Everyone here talking about some hypothetical Android based custom OS built for Korean military which does not exist and it is not what Korean military doing. They are allowing stock Android OS with „security app”. Not surprised they are not building custom OS because it is economically idiotic idea. You need army of cyber security experts familiar with Android OS architecture that will review whole OS code and customize for military. Then you need to pen-test it and keep on doing it on each upstream OS update or fork it and maintain internally. Which is another can of worms coz you’ll need to make sure internal fork works fine with up-to-date versions of apps. Otherwise you just have dumb smartphone with higher risk of vulnerabilities in outdated apps. At this point as I said, just force sensitive staff to use dumb phone or internal landline.

        And don’t tell me “but Samsung is Korean they can do it for Korean military”. It doesn’t not change the fact that it will cost astronomical amount of money and time. Can Samsung do it? Probably yes. Will Korean military be able to offer enough money to probably the only local company that can do it which also has revenue of approx. 20% of Korea’s GDP. I doubt.

        • Xatolos@reddthat.com
          4·
          6 months ago

          You mean the Samsung “Tactical Edition” smartphones?

          They’ve been around for years. They were originally built for the Korean military. And it didn’t cost them an “astronomical” amount of money.