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      did it though, nothing has really changed sense his presidency has ended and arguably it has all gotten worse, all be it at a SLIGHTLY less breakneck pace. Not only that but his popularity never weigned and he is poiesed to come back, and I will be honest as much as I do not want trump to come back I would be a fool to say I did not expect him to win the election in 2024.

      So no, temporarily removing him did basicly nothing, except allow feckless liberals to go to brunch and ignore everything that is going on in the world

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        It would take quite an argument for me to believe things are worse now than November of 2020.

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          Roe vs. Wade was still in effect in 2020. Of course, it being struck down was a consequence of things that happened before 2020 (mostly during Trump’s term, but Obama bending over for McConnell didn’t help matters) so that doesn’t really count.

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          Abortion is now illegal in many States, we have a potential civil war, with several states in a stand off with the federal government over weather or not death traps can be put in the rio grand, instead of actually doing didily squat about it our lovely president has sat their with his thumb up his ass and just let it happen, the wall is still going up, we are having more deportations than we ever did under trump, and also more kids in cages, really the only difrence on the imigration front the only difrence is its more effective, quieter, and they use nicer words,

          Oh and the special council investigating the president all but said he would not indite soly because of dementia.

          Oh and the genocide in Isreal got worse

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            November 2020 was pre Covid vaccine. The election denial that started that month led to an actual insurrection, not just the cowboy fantasy of Texas pushing back on a court ruling.

            US GDP is 15%+ higher today, the S&P500 is up like 40%, unemployment is 3.7% instead of 6.7%, we have an infrastructure investment plan actively fixing bridges and building tunnels, we are in progress to reduce carbon emissions to 40% below 2005 levels due to the IRA. There was a bipartisan gun control law passed. Things just are better.

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              US GDP is 15%+ higher today, the S&P500 is up like 40%. Things just are better.

              How could things not be better, the line has gone up!

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                The covid restrictions are gone, that’s better. In spite of all predictions there has been no recession over 4 years and unemployment has stayed low the entire presidency. That’s better. I literally don’t know what more you could want in the metrics of unemployment and covid restrictions.

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                  The covid restrictions being gone is only better if covid is gone. Unemployment hasn’t “stayed low the entire presidency” it was one of the highest it’s ever been and only got to this point over the course of two years. If we didn’t get enough of a recession to meet your standard for calling it that, we at the very least got close enough to spark a huge national debate in the media about what constitutes a recession.

                  As for covid restrictions, you could at least reinstate a mask mandate or hell even just a recommendation, even if only during outbreaks. And I’m not giving him credit for making unemployment the exact same as his predecessor when he didn’t do anything for unemployment that wouldn’t have happened anyway, under any president.

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                    The covid restrictions being gone is only better if covid is gone.

                    That’s an impossible bar to clear, the next best thing is vaccines so prevalent that covid numbers stop surging and get down to manageable levels. That is what happened, since November of 2020.

                    Employment hasn’t “stayed low the entire presidency” it was one of the highest it’s ever been and only got to this point over the course of two years.

                    Bidens presidency started January 2021, unemployment at 6.4%. By the end of the year it was at 3.9%. And it has been steady between 3.5% and 4% ever since.

                    If we didn’t get enough of a recession to meet your standard for calling it that, we at the very least got close enough to spark a huge national debate in the media about what constitutes a recession.

                    We didn’t meet the US definition. The NBER decides, and they say there wasn’t a recession. You are 100% right that the media and political figures were were talking about an impending recession the entire time, and it never happened. That is a good thing.

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          Im saying he isnt the cancer, heck he isn’t all that different from biden except he says the stuff he is not suposed to say, The cancer is capitalism, the fact we let society get this bad,

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            Do you have a better socioeconomic ideology to propose?

            Anarchy can’t work on a large scale.

            Communism was tried and tested, and it resulted in a dictatorship (North Korea), a “democratic” country ruled by a man whose opposition mysteriously keeps falling out of windows (Russia), or a capitalist society with eroded human rights that still calls itself communist (China).

            The best option, in my opinion, is to keep what works but tax the fuck out of the rich and corporations and use their money to provide services to the less fortunate. But, thanks to decades of propaganda, half the country refuses to support that idea because socialism = communism = bad.

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              North Korea is not a dictatorship, all information coming out of it is either one video about a hair cut (very good documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8) or sources all trace back to the CIA… Russia is very much a capitalist oligarchy that got erodied from the golory days of the USSR by the CIA, and China is communist and has better human rights than the United states, Have you even read their constitution or foundational documents.

              Second I hate to say this but Communism IS socialism, or atleast from all the origional texts, more precicely Socialism is now used as the lower form of communism, before we get rid of states and money. so yes I do have a better socieo economic ideology, its Communism, and we put the rich to the wall,

              Also lets look here at Cuba 0 homeless, one of the higest life expectencies, the higest literacy rate, one of the most flurishing democratic participations in the world, and the best protection of minority rights anywhere in the world, all done while under a genocidal blocade of the US. and they still find time to send doctors all around the globe. I would call this a sucsess. and what ever the US is doing a monumental falure.

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      His replacement is (like the one he replaced) one of the most unpopular presidents in modern history, and is actively aiding the genocidal Netanyahu government.

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        His replacement is (like the one he replaced) one of the most unpopular presidents in modern history

        Biden: Unpopular
        Trump: ???
        Obama: Unpopular

        And you get your facts from FOX News, right?

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          The one he(Biden) replaced, who was also record-breakingly unpopular, was Trump. Not sure how you managed to shoehorn Obama into this.