• NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
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        9 months ago

        My point is that Israel is not a colony and has a right to exist.

        I am not excusing what is being done to Palestinians. I strive for peace, and Israel is showing no signs of it anymore, though it absolutely did just a few decades ago. But no one is saying all of Russia doesn’t have a right to exist because it attacked Ukraine. No one is saying USA or Canada don’t have a right to exist because of how they historically treated and are still treating native Americans. And no one should be saying that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.

        Coexistence is the only solution. It seems impossible today, but it’s the only possible solution that could possibly work. Anything else is even more detached from reality.

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          9 months ago

          I strive for peace

          By doing what?

          it absolutely did just a few decades ago.

          Bull. Shit.

          The absolute minimum Isreal would have to do to even be said to be interested in peace - let alone striving for it - is to either recognise Palestine as a sovereign country and treat it as such, or to recognise Palestinians as citizens of Isreal. So long as they keep holding them in this limbo, in egregious violation of international law, Isreal has zero interest in peace.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          9 months ago

          “No country is fully independent” says nothing about whether Israel is properly classified as a colony. It’s a platitude.

          a right to exist

          Another platitude. What do you mean by this? Israel’s current actions are indefensible. Many of its past actions are indefensible. Its policy of neither recognizing a Palestinian state nor granting equal citizenship to Palestinians is indefensible. It must either fundamentally change or be replaced by a government worth supporting, like South Africa before it.

          It certainly does not have a right to continue existing in its current form, no more than Nazi Germany did.