• wieson@feddit.org
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    3 months ago

    This operation has the potential to better Ukraine’s strategic position greatly. Ukraine winning means the dying of civilians stops. Ukraine giving up would not have the same result.

    Did ww2 stop when Germany conquered Czechoslovakia? - No.

    Did ww2 stop when Germany conquered Poland? - No.

    Did ww2 stop when Germany conquered the Netherlands? - No.

    Did ww2 stop when Germany conquered Denmark? - No.

    Did ww2 stop when Germany conquered France? - No.

    Did ww2 stop when Germany conquered Norway? - No.

    Ww2 ended, when Nazi Germany was defeated.

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      3 months ago

      Ukraine winning means the dying of civilians stops. Ukraine giving up would not have the same result.

      Ukraine winning, Ukraine giving up, Ukraine making a peace deal with Russia, Russia winning - all those options will mean the dying of civilians stops.
      The only option where people will continue to die is the option you (probably) support - continuing the war.

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        3 months ago

        That is not my perception.

        Russia winning means, the dying will continue in the suppression of their new subjects and in future invasions since this one would have been successful in the end.

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        You lie, moskals have been observed to continue stealing, raping, killing and ethnic cleansing long after any hostilities ceased in many armed conflicts before. Their behaviour in Bucha and elsewhere proves they haven’t changed one bit.

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      would ukraine winning mean civilians stop dying in the eastern oblasts where the coup regime have been murdering civilians and bombing and shelling them since 2014?