• Schmoo@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    Let me approach this from a different angle. If a military defeat is necessary to create revolutionary conditions, is it not then in the best interest of the working class in each imperialist power for the other to win, and does that not then put the working class in each imperialist power at odds with one another?

    Don’t you believe in internationalism? Solidarity?

    How many hundreds of thousands of lives does it cost to create revolutionary conditions, and how can you be so arrogant as to cheer while they’re fed into the meatgrinder, believing with such certainty that it means you’ll get your chance at revolution?

    • carl_marks[use name]@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 months ago

      If a military defeat is necessary to create revolutionary conditions, is it not then in the best interest of the working class in each imperialist power for the other to win,

      Yes?

      and does that not then put the working class in each imperialist power at odds with one another?

      Yes I would like the war to end asap and not to see Ukraines working class be forced into the meat grider to fight the imperialists fight…

      Don’t you believe in internationalism? Solidarity?

      Yes?

      How many hundreds of thousands of lives does it cost to create revolutionary conditions, and how can you be so arrogant as to cheer while they’re fed into the meatgrinder, believing with such certainty that it means you’ll get your chance at revolution?

      That’s such a perverted misrepresentation of material reality I’m not even sure where to begin. 1) Analysis does not mean justification. That’s your interpretation of it. 2) where am I cheering it on? You make it sound like I endorse it when in fact it’s NATO and it’s proponents 3) heightend contradictions improve condition for revolution is a basic historical fact…