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    3 months ago

    LOL, drones can be used for occupation? Really? Foolish mental acrobatics so you don’t have to deal with reality.

    Sending a drone, likely a kamikaze drone, at a nuclear power plant is not a valid military operation.

    What Russia did, quite clearly, was captured and secure a plant. What Ukraine did, based on the evidence, is chuck an explosive at a plant.

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      “At a plant”, or “near a plant”?

      Also, why couldn’t a drone strike be precursor to capturing and securing the plant? E.g. destroy guard posts in front of the plant in a controlled manner to reduce the risk of uncontrolled firefights during the capturing?

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        The owners of the plant say it was an attack on the plant. You can feel free to go find evidence to back up your claims of something else and present it.

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          Well, if the owner’s word is enough as evidence on it’s own, Russia has committed quite a bit of warcrimes in Ukraine. Will be interesting to see how they could possibly weasel out of a conviction considering the rock-solid “trust-me bro” evidence also provided by Ukraine.

          Maybe one should not blindly trust the word of one of the warring parties?

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            Way to deflect into whataboutism.

            Nuclear brinkmanship is the USA’s behavior. The only country to use nukes on people was the USA. The USA is the one who violated non-proliferation giving nukes to Israel. The USA is the country that has pulled out of nuclear treaties. Bush 2 was openly calling for the development of tactical nukes. Under Biden the military was openly describing their work in Taiwan as building the Pacific kill chain, essential nuclear first strike capabilities.

            So when a country that’s been invaded by the West 3 times in last 150 years says that there was an attempt to create nuclear escalation, yeah I am gonna believe it

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              Holy whataboutism indeed. In a war between Ukraine and Russia, we are supposed to blindly believe Russia, because the US is doing bad stuff with nukes in a differen part of the world?

              BTW, after how many invasions does one get the “everyone must believe what I say” card? I mean, Ukraine has also been invaded a few times now.

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                You don’t understand whataboutism and can’t tell the difference between it and corroborating evidence.

                Whataboutism is when I say that the owner of the plant says there was an attempt at nuclear terrorism and you say Russia commits war crimes.

                Corroborating evidence is when I make a bold claim like the USA is engaging in nuclear brinkmanship and then provide historical evidence to support my claim.

                Do you see the difference or can you only hear “screeeeee I am a Russian apologist bot paid by the Kremlin”?

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                  Ukraine fights Russia. “But what about US nuclear brinkmanship in completely different places?”

                  Would you BTW answer how many times one needs tp be invaded until one should be blindly trusted? I’m truly curious. You mentioned 3 times in 150 years. Is that more or less it?

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                    I don’t argue with fuck wits after I recognize them. Piss off of with your intellectual dishonesty.