I mean there is a thing going all the way back to the silent generation who had a taste of the depression and so had some knowledge of truly bad times. Even younger boomers had a decent chance of getting a job that you could raise a family with just a high school degree and older ones could be pretty successful. Having a pension was the usual. Losers who managed fast food could still afford a place of their own and a fixer upper car. I saw these things go away as an Xer but I know its still better than those after me. college loans for me was like a car loan. A very nice car, like luxury care, but still a car. So college was doable even for those whose parents could not help out. It was not long after I graduated that college loans became like mortgages for the millenials. You can have a car loan with no car and get by and you can’t be doing a mortgage with no shelter to show for it. All the while a college degree debased to where its basically the high school minimum needed for any shot. Its that much worse for gen Z and I don’t even want to imagine what gen alpha will have. Thats just economic. Then you take the giant fall back we had with environmental regulations with reagan. There was a lot of environmental consciousness in the 70’s and it essentailly evaporated in the 80’s with yuppies and greed is good. Granted this is mostly a republican effect but who were the reagan democrats? I get that many boomers are great and its not that the generations that follow are individually so great but the way its shaken out it just gets to be a more and more raw deal for each successive generation.
Your comment makes sweeping generalizations about boomers as if they all had it easy. I want to remind people that this really only applied to a select group of specially elevated boomers. A white man could have what you say, good fucking luck if you were a Black woman though.
well yeah and your taking the 60’s and its not like it would be better to be black in the 50’s. What im trying to say is things basically improved until we started periodically regressing in the 80’s and beyond. It was like two steps forward one step back and became one step forward two steps back and you can’t broadly apply it to white men either but im not talking about people im talking about the time periods and living in one to the other. If you go back to the OP its about getting criticized by the older generation and responding with their own failings. Which existed. I mean the boomer claim to fame is basically the hippie erra. yuppie and beyond was not great but the hippie era was a direct result of the draft. There were some earnest individuals trying to stop pollution and improve human rights but there was also some who just did not want to get killed and enjoyed the drugs.
Even younger boomers had a decent chance of getting a job that you could raise a family with just a high school degree and older ones could be pretty successful.
Read this very carefully. Do you think this applied to Black people in 1960?
yes. do you believe all black people in 1960 were on welfare? Do you believe no black people in 1960 had decent jobs. Discrimination is about relative opportunity of the time and believe it or not they do not have it better now. Heck we are losing much of what came out of the 60’s.
no but segregation now is worse. do you think it ended and do you think its better with more pollution because your going to be surprised how segregation works?
Lol of course not, so I’ll repeat myself and say it’s funny how this never comes up in the “death to America” and “such and such is the West’s fault” of the other hexbear posts you comment in. I know you’re being a contrarian teenager right, but that’s the kind of stuff that makes hexbear posters look dumb.
I mean there is a thing going all the way back to the silent generation who had a taste of the depression and so had some knowledge of truly bad times. Even younger boomers had a decent chance of getting a job that you could raise a family with just a high school degree and older ones could be pretty successful. Having a pension was the usual. Losers who managed fast food could still afford a place of their own and a fixer upper car. I saw these things go away as an Xer but I know its still better than those after me. college loans for me was like a car loan. A very nice car, like luxury care, but still a car. So college was doable even for those whose parents could not help out. It was not long after I graduated that college loans became like mortgages for the millenials. You can have a car loan with no car and get by and you can’t be doing a mortgage with no shelter to show for it. All the while a college degree debased to where its basically the high school minimum needed for any shot. Its that much worse for gen Z and I don’t even want to imagine what gen alpha will have. Thats just economic. Then you take the giant fall back we had with environmental regulations with reagan. There was a lot of environmental consciousness in the 70’s and it essentailly evaporated in the 80’s with yuppies and greed is good. Granted this is mostly a republican effect but who were the reagan democrats? I get that many boomers are great and its not that the generations that follow are individually so great but the way its shaken out it just gets to be a more and more raw deal for each successive generation.
Not all boomers are white.
this is true. not sure what it has to do with my comment but true.
Your comment makes sweeping generalizations about boomers as if they all had it easy. I want to remind people that this really only applied to a select group of specially elevated boomers. A white man could have what you say, good fucking luck if you were a Black woman though.
Not all white men. I specifically pointed out its not the case with all individuals.
Only white men, though. They, as a cohort, definitely had it easy like no one else. Particularly straight able-bodied Christians.
not true. as a matter of fact creating a black upper class was a key strategy to break the direction and unity of the civil rights movement.
That could apply to individuals, like you said, but you can’t apply it broadly like you can apply privileges to white men.
Furthermore, they’re doing the same thing today so that literally hasn’t even changed.
But defeating the civil rights movement was more about killing off the leaders.
well yeah and your taking the 60’s and its not like it would be better to be black in the 50’s. What im trying to say is things basically improved until we started periodically regressing in the 80’s and beyond. It was like two steps forward one step back and became one step forward two steps back and you can’t broadly apply it to white men either but im not talking about people im talking about the time periods and living in one to the other. If you go back to the OP its about getting criticized by the older generation and responding with their own failings. Which existed. I mean the boomer claim to fame is basically the hippie erra. yuppie and beyond was not great but the hippie era was a direct result of the draft. There were some earnest individuals trying to stop pollution and improve human rights but there was also some who just did not want to get killed and enjoyed the drugs.
That’s hilarious, do you also say that with your “death to America” hexbear buddies?
Read this very carefully. Do you think this applied to Black people in 1960?
yes. do you believe all black people in 1960 were on welfare? Do you believe no black people in 1960 had decent jobs. Discrimination is about relative opportunity of the time and believe it or not they do not have it better now. Heck we are losing much of what came out of the 60’s.
I believe that Black boomers didn’t have everything handed to them like white boomers, among other oppressed groups.
Times are easy or hard depending on who you are and your place in class society.
I never said boomers had everything handed to them. In a nutshell I said times were overall easier and have been getting worse since.
Times were not overall easier for everyone under segregation. You’re just looking at history through a white lens.
no but segregation now is worse. do you think it ended and do you think its better with more pollution because your going to be surprised how segregation works?
Lol of course not, so I’ll repeat myself and say it’s funny how this never comes up in the “death to America” and “such and such is the West’s fault” of the other hexbear posts you comment in. I know you’re being a contrarian teenager right, but that’s the kind of stuff that makes hexbear posters look dumb.
So mad about it that you had to mention it twice unprompted.