Israel
“Congratulations on history’s greatest comeback! Your historic return to the White House offers a new beginning for America and a powerful recommitment to the great alliance between Israel and America. This is a huge victory! In true friendship,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu posted on social media platform X.
Iran
The livelihoods of Iranians will not be affected by the US election, government spokeswoman Fatemeh Mohajerani told reporters after a cabinet meeting in Tehran.
“The US elections are not really our business. Our policies are steady and don’t change based on individuals. We made the necessary predictions before and there will not be change in people’s livelihoods,” she said.
Hamas
Trump’s victory puts to test his earlier statements that he can stop the war in Gaza within hours, Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told the Reuters news agency. The Democratic party’s loss is the natural price for its leadership’s “criminal stance” towards Gaza, Abu Zuhri said, adding that “we urge Trump to learn from [US President Joe] Biden’s mistakes.”
China
“Our policy towards the US is consistent,” Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Mao Ning said at a news briefing.
“We will continue to view and handle China-US relations in accordance with the principles of mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win-win cooperation,” she added.
Ukraine
“I appreciate President Trump’s commitment to the ‘peace through strength’ approach in global affairs. This is exactly the principle that can practically bring just peace in Ukraine closer,” President Volodymyr Zelenskyy wrote on X.
United Kingdom
Prime Minister Keir Starmer said, “Congratulations President-elect Trump on your historic election victory. I look forward to working with you in the years ahead. As the closest of allies, we stand shoulder to shoulder in defence of our shared values of freedom, democracy and enterprise.”
NATO
Secretary-General Mark Rutte: “I just congratulated Donald Trump on his election as President of the United States. His leadership will again be key to keeping our Alliance strong. I look forward to working with him again to advance peace through strength through NATO.”
European Union
“The EU and the US are more than just allies. We are bound by a true partnership between our people, uniting 800 million citizens,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said. “So let’s work together on a strong transatlantic agenda that keeps delivering for them.”
India
Congratulating Trump on a “historic election victory”, Prime Minister Narendra Modi posted on X that “as you build on the successes of your previous term, I look forward to renewing our collaboration to further strengthen the India-US Comprehensive Global and Strategic Partnership.”
Russia
“Trump has one useful quality for us: as a businessman to the core, he mortally dislikes spending money on various hangers-on and stupid hanger-on allies, on bad charity projects and on voracious international organisations,” former President Dmitry Medvedev posted on the Telegram messaging app.
The rhetoric, the only thing that matters to some people.
An unimpeded conservative government will roll back human rights that took us decades to earn.
Trump elected supreme court officials necessary to defeat roe v wade. He put the people in power capable of rolling those rights back.
Women’s rights is just the beginning. Every member of American society will have their basic human rights threatened during this term.
Why on God’s green fucking earth would you think that only the rhetoric is different? Please answer this question and do not skip it.
Sounds like a fundamentally broken and unfixable system if the work of literal generations for things that are internationally recognized as correct can be undone in a couple of years.
The Ds had multiple opportunities to address this. They punted on all of them, from making nominations to rejecting nominations to expanding the court. They chose exactly none of these options over the last 12 years.
No he didn’t. Congress did.
They all have been already. Did you forget McCarthyism? How about the black felon rate? The black incarceration rate? The national incarceration rate? Slave labor? (California voted overwhelmingly to maintain prison slave labor) How about disparate health outcomes for non-whites? Educational outcomes? Wealth outcomes? Homelessness?
Every member of American society has had their basic human rights threatened for the last 200 years except for that still quite small group of white people.
Because the Kamala literally said the only difference between her and Biden would be that she would appoint a Republican to her cabinet? Because Pelosi said we want a strong Republican party? Because the Ds have done literally nothing to stop this so-called “threat to democracy”? Because under Biden solitary confinement of migrants, including infants and toddlers, increased? Because Kamala told migrants “Don’t come”? Because military surplus being transferred to domestic police continued unabated under Biden? Because the foreign policy continues to be destruction and devastation and nuclear brinksmanship regardless of party in charge? Because there are no solutions to the economic crises that protect the ideology of privatization? Because the Ds have had multiple opportunities in the last 40 years to codify Roe into law and chose not to so they could continue campaigning on the issue? Because the Ds will tell you to your face that the Rs are rabid fascist authoritarians and then still go to lunch with them, high five them on the legislative floor, and have dance parties? Because the Ds and Rs come together on the regular to feed the war machine and the money machine, even to the point of bypassing the filibuster temporarily during the exact same session where the Ds said they can do nothing about the filibuster?
Because all of the fucking evidence is that literally the only difference is the lens you’re looking through and where and how the harm falls and how it sounds when it falls?
I’m willing to try one more time with you. After that, I’ll need to reclaim my time and be productive where I can.
Your point was that after electing Trump, the only thing that changes is “rhetoric, the only thing that matters to some people”, and I disagreed by citing examples of how our rights were rolled back during his previous term. This means I am saying, “you’re wrong - it’s not just rhetoric that changes. It’s also our rights as Americans.”
I understand that you’re severely critical of the Democratic party, but are you really willing to say that the only measurable change to our society during a second Trump term is rhetoric? It’s going to get a lot of people killed, man. You should care about that.
I won’t get pulled into the weeds with you. Either backpedal or admit that you were wrong, or I’m leaving the conversation.
Oh how gracious! Thank you!
Yeah, I’m aware. And as it turns out ALL of the things you can cite for Trump are ALSO things you can cite for NOT TRUMP, as I did by citing examples of how our rights are rolled back, attacked, diminished, and destroyed under prior administrations including Biden’s.
This means I am saying “our rights” are constantly being harmed regardless of who is in office and that the only that changes is the framing and lens, which includes the rhetoric as well as the particular strategies of harm that result in harm being targeted in specific ways. It’s not less harm under Democrats, it’s not less harm other NOT TRUMP, it’s just different framing.
If that’s your understanding, then you’re not understanding. I’m severely critical of the entire American project along its entire continuum of existence and absolutely every single leader that has ever been elected. I’ll take that one step further so you understand how far off you are - I denounce the entirety of the colonial system that gave birth to and is continued by the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the rest of the British Commonwealth abroad, and the foreign holdings of all European countries, their leaders, their parties-in-power, their owning classes, and their supporting militaries, academies, religious institutions, and NGOs.
Do you get it now?
I CHALLENGE you to attempt to catalog the number of people who died as a result of each administration for the last 20 administrations and see if you can find ANY evidence that who is president matters at all along that dimension. Clinton bombed Yugoslavia. Bush destroyed Iraq. Obama destroyed Libya. The Afghanistan affair spanned 20 fucking year. Ukraine is the direct result of the US arming and training Ukraine and expanding nuclear NATO as part of a project that started under Clinton. Trump literally was the first president to approve arms transfers to Ukraine as part of the escalation ladder that led to Biden overseeing the continued expansion of NATO. But it was under Obama that John McCain ® and Victoria Nuland (?D?) went to Ukraine to participate in the violent transfer of power that started with training and organizing fascists and ended with Right Sector storming the capitol with gun drawn.
And that’s to say nothing of the non-stop destruction of water, land, and food of the indigenous people across the Americas, the residential schools that were overseen by both parties over many decades, the forced sterilization overseen by both parties over many decades, the incarceration and ensnaring-in-poverty of the black population overseen by both parties over many decades.
What the fuck kind of discourse do you think this is where what I want is to continue a conversation with someone who thinks they are fundamentally correct without doubt and simultaneously believes their engagement is so desirable that withdrawing it is an effective gambit.
Fuck off
So a genocide is not a redline for you?
Imagine thinking it will be any better under Trump
It won’t be, but at least liberals will oppose the genocide now
I didn’t mention genocide… why do you think it isn’t a redline for me? can you explain how you got there, mentally?