Personally I would like to be able to talk to people with different views, in a civil manner. But Lemmy.ml doesn’t seem to want that. If you post something that they don’t like (even if it’s a very moderate view and is expressed in a completely civil way) then they ban you. They seem to really hate moderate people.
If you believe in modlogs, then drag was banned from !politicalmemes@lemmy.world for “trolling”, which is what a trans person explaining their pronouns is.
Trolls who pretend to be trans are only threatening if you feel threatened by trans people. When you react with hostility, you feed and empower them. When you restrict the rights of trans people under the suspicion a troll might use those rights, the trolls win.
If you practice radical acceptance and only draw the line at causing harm to other people, then trolls can’t do anything bad to you.
Drag isn’t a troll, but drag is bewildered at the logic that we should stop trolls by doing exactly what they want. That’s never going to work. You’re just gonna end up hurting real trans people like drag. And you’re gonna send a message to other queer people that if they step one inch out of line, you’ll be ready to call them a troll too. Who on earth does that actually help?
Which is why you can see them do it exactly as stated. “American propaganda” lol.
Have fun hanging around people who ban people for disagreeing with the party line of a dead ideology that had its corpse cannibalized by fascists. That will surely lead to the second revolution.
That’d be the part where they hid the actual comments and mod responses on all the .ml communities. Interesting that it rewrites the history when they decide to undo it, I hadn’t actually noticed it expired.
So weird and uncharacteristic of M-Ls to do something shitty and then delete the records and then lie about the cause because it makes them look bad…
.world communities do the same thing, just banning someone for “misinformation” looks much less suspicious than showing posts of me linking people the Wikipedia article on Tienanmen Square and describing what the article said and surrounding context instead of joining the china-bad circle-jerk.
There’s a pretty big difference between arguing the details of something as controversial as Tianamen and instance banning anyone that doesn’t use the Party-approved definition of democracy even though they clearly referred to a specific form of it.
I’ve never banned anybody for saying their view, and I don’t think I’d support someone being banned for saying their view, as long as they’re being respectful, and as long as they’re not advocating anything criminal.
Moderate in what context? Moderate about Jews in 1938 Germany? Jews at some point in time before that? Black people in 1800s Amerikkka. Black people in today’s amerikkka?
Personally I would like to be able to talk to people with different views, in a civil manner. But Lemmy.ml doesn’t seem to want that. If you post something that they don’t like (even if it’s a very moderate view and is expressed in a completely civil way) then they ban you. They seem to really hate moderate people.
Being banned means less of a problem for you - got a reason to ignore them and let them echo chamber however they want.
Most of the users saying this went around screaming the word Tankie all over the place on .ml.
I got instance banned for saying federal democratic republics are a form of democracy.
Edit: I also don’t care. I never expected M-Ls to do anything besides M-L things and they don’t owe me anything.
Modlogs are public, everyone can see why you were banned.
Also no ml would disagree with that, here’s Lenin explaining the difference between a capitalist democracy and a workers democracy.
Everyone can see why the mod said they were banned. If you believe the mod logs, I was banned from 196 for “supporting genocide”
If you believe in modlogs, then drag was banned from !politicalmemes@lemmy.world for “trolling”, which is what a trans person explaining their pronouns is.
To be fair, to me (a 30-something gay dude from EU) what you posted here in the screenshot looks like taking a piss and trolling.
Trolls who pretend to be trans are only threatening if you feel threatened by trans people. When you react with hostility, you feed and empower them. When you restrict the rights of trans people under the suspicion a troll might use those rights, the trolls win.
If you practice radical acceptance and only draw the line at causing harm to other people, then trolls can’t do anything bad to you.
Drag isn’t a troll, but drag is bewildered at the logic that we should stop trolls by doing exactly what they want. That’s never going to work. You’re just gonna end up hurting real trans people like drag. And you’re gonna send a message to other queer people that if they step one inch out of line, you’ll be ready to call them a troll too. Who on earth does that actually help?
Wait, you’re DroneRights?
No, drag’s name is Dragon Rider.
Probably shouldn’t support genocide then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I would love for you to find the comment where I did that
Which is why you can see them do it exactly as stated. “American propaganda” lol.
Have fun hanging around people who ban people for disagreeing with the party line of a dead ideology that had its corpse cannibalized by fascists. That will surely lead to the second revolution.
Can you point at me where it says you were banned for “American propaganda”? I tried ctrl+f “propaganda” to see what you were saying that got you banned and nothing came up.
Nobody is going to disagree that a bourgeois democracy is a democracy, only that bourgeois democracies represent the people instead of bourgeoisie.
That’d be the part where they hid the actual comments and mod responses on all the .ml communities. Interesting that it rewrites the history when they decide to undo it, I hadn’t actually noticed it expired.
So weird and uncharacteristic of M-Ls to do something shitty and then delete the records and then lie about the cause because it makes them look bad…
.world communities do the same thing, just banning someone for “misinformation” looks much less suspicious than showing posts of me linking people the Wikipedia article on Tienanmen Square and describing what the article said and surrounding context instead of joining the china-bad circle-jerk.
There’s a pretty big difference between arguing the details of something as controversial as Tianamen and instance banning anyone that doesn’t use the Party-approved definition of democracy even though they clearly referred to a specific form of it.
every accusation is a confession.
I’ve never banned anybody for saying their view, and I don’t think I’d support someone being banned for saying their view, as long as they’re being respectful, and as long as they’re not advocating anything criminal.
Moderate in what context? Moderate about Jews in 1938 Germany? Jews at some point in time before that? Black people in 1800s Amerikkka. Black people in today’s amerikkka?