I have gotten my friend group to switch to using Signal for our group chat. It was pretty hard because I’m the only Android user but I ended up convincing them
Why is that? They constantly bitch about me not having an iPhone, but they won’t download any app that gives us back rich messaging features. I’ve suggested everything except for Facebook Messenger. I’ve pushed hard for telegram, since I use it with all of my other iPhone friends, but they just complain and refuse to install anything. It’s super annoying.
First, Telegram messages are only “transport-encrypted”, meaning that the messages are safe while in transport from you to Telegram and from Telegram to the recipient of your message. Very importantly, these messages are not encrypted while Telegram has them! Even WhatsApp has better and more encryption than that (Called End-to-End encryption, only sender and recipient can read a message).
Therefore, you have to trust Telegram not to look at your messages (they certainly do) while other services simply can’t.
Second, at least here in Germany Telegram has become the main platform for conspiracy nuts and antidemocratic organizations. Someone who is “very active” on Telegram is most certainly an idiot.
Signal sucks, a lot. Try using their “privacy first” service with a VPN. You literally need so solve a captcha on every new chat you start.
There is no official FOSS client. You can use Twinhelix’ Signal-FOSS which works great. I recommend using Molly though, which has more needed features like linking multiple mobile devices (for example using an Android Tablet and a phone, with the full version instead of the uncapable Desktop version).
Signal is still based on phone numbers, which is its biggest strength. But it is a centralized Service, nobody runs a Signal server (apart of the country servers from Signal themselves).
Try SimpleX. It is really great and now has like eveything you need. It is completely anonymous, but can also be different. It gives the users a lot of control, which may not be wanted and confuse people.
oh my god, this (basically culture war) is so hard to witness as a european.
just use signal for god’s sake.
I have gotten my friend group to switch to using Signal for our group chat. It was pretty hard because I’m the only Android user but I ended up convincing them
I can’t force my friends to use it. I can’t even get them to install telegram
Having friends that refuse to have anything to do with Telegram is a God’s Send nowadays!
Why is that? They constantly bitch about me not having an iPhone, but they won’t download any app that gives us back rich messaging features. I’ve suggested everything except for Facebook Messenger. I’ve pushed hard for telegram, since I use it with all of my other iPhone friends, but they just complain and refuse to install anything. It’s super annoying.
Two reasons.
First, Telegram messages are only “transport-encrypted”, meaning that the messages are safe while in transport from you to Telegram and from Telegram to the recipient of your message. Very importantly, these messages are not encrypted while Telegram has them! Even WhatsApp has better and more encryption than that (Called End-to-End encryption, only sender and recipient can read a message).
Therefore, you have to trust Telegram not to look at your messages (they certainly do) while other services simply can’t.
Second, at least here in Germany Telegram has become the main platform for conspiracy nuts and antidemocratic organizations. Someone who is “very active” on Telegram is most certainly an idiot.
Signal sucks, a lot. Try using their “privacy first” service with a VPN. You literally need so solve a captcha on every new chat you start.
There is no official FOSS client. You can use Twinhelix’ Signal-FOSS which works great. I recommend using Molly though, which has more needed features like linking multiple mobile devices (for example using an Android Tablet and a phone, with the full version instead of the uncapable Desktop version).
Signal is still based on phone numbers, which is its biggest strength. But it is a centralized Service, nobody runs a Signal server (apart of the country servers from Signal themselves).
Try SimpleX. It is really great and now has like eveything you need. It is completely anonymous, but can also be different. It gives the users a lot of control, which may not be wanted and confuse people.