Summary

Gen Z is increasingly relying on “buy now, pay later” (BNPL) services for holiday shopping, with spending projected to rise 11.4% this year, totaling $18.5 billion.

These services appeal to younger consumers with limited credit histories but can lead to overextension, as they lack centralized reporting and encourage overspending.

Experts warn of accumulating fees, particularly when BNPL plans are tied to credit cards.

With inflation and rising credit card debt already burdening Gen Z, consumer advocates caution that these services may worsen financial instability despite their convenience.

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    Systemic issues can only be solved with systemic changes.

    No amount of shaming individuals will fix systemic debt issues, if this is such a large trend that it effects most of the generation then it can only be fixed with systemic changes.

    The narrative that individuals are responsible for widespread debt is propaganda meant to shift blame off of the rich people causing wealth inequality to skyrocket

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      I don’t think their comment was about shaming individuals, but rather pointing out that there are individual level factors that economists don’t take into account when measuring economic health.

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        Its not even ‘individial factors’ in the sense that everyone faces unique situations that are not captured by data.

        These credit / debt amounts are obviously captured by credit agencies, banks, etc., sold off to data brokers, either anonymized or not.

        How else would any credit check occur?

        A BLS economist could easily work these in to existing top line numbers, or make a new headline index.

        Income Sans Recurring Debt Payments (car, house, consumer debt, student loans, etc)

        Average

        Median

        Percentiles / Buckets / Brackets

        Household/Individual

        By Age

        By Sex

        By Location

        By Gross Income

        By Education Level

        …etc.

        The data is there. The math is not that hard (for an Economist or Data Scientist).

        They just don’t.

        It’s lieing by ommission.

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          I wonder if this research is done but not picked up by media.

          I’m honestly not sure. I have the means to check but not the time-energy, unfortunately.

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            Maybe a few times a year a story makes it fairly mainstream in terms of internet news, but it almost never trends amongst popular streamers / youtubers / podcasts, or airs on TV.

            Credit Karma or some other credit agency, or maybe some non profit or academic research will show up, as this article is…

            … But the data obviously exists to be able to study and work into a new metric, which could be reported probably at a monthly pace, worst case, quarterly.

            Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

            The BLS does, I think? have some very rough aggregate stats on consumer debt levels, but nobody reports on it the way business news orgasms every time the jobs print and CPI come out…

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        Systemic issues can only be solved with systemic changes.

        Blaming any individual for their outcome in a system that creates these issues distracts people from the cause of the issues, wealth inequality.

        That’s why choosing to obsess over individual choices is totally useless and literal propaganda keeping people from correctly focusing their frustrations

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      No clue how you read myself shaming individuals into what I wrote.

      I was writing to explain why everyone feels poorer than all the headline Econ numbers say we should feel.

      Why all the libs who spent the last year or two telling us ‘the economy is fine actually’ were just factually wrong, functionally gaslighting everyone.

      If anything, I call out the media, media friendly ‘economists’ and business people for perpetuating bullshit.

      Obviously a general explosion in personal debt levels is a general, systemic problem with systemic solutions?

      I am all for systemic solutions:

      Tax the Wealthy / Tax Corporations

      Get rid of student loans, do free tuition

      Do a total debt jubilee for those below I dunno 200% poverty income threshold

      Cap all consumer credit instruments of all kinds at 3x the Fed Rate

      Raise the threshold of income for SNAP and LIHEAP and EITC, etc

      Implement universal healthcare, outlaw private insurance, lower costs

      Raise the minimum wage

      Rent control, automatically expunge all eviction records after 1 or 2 years, actually fund building public housing, write a law that says if a house or condo is on market, unsold, you must drop its price by 5% for every 3 months it remains unsold…

      Blah blah, tons of things we could theoretically do.

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          … Are you a bot, or do you just have extremely poor reading comprehension?

          Can you explain how me stating that a whole bunch of people have a lot of debt … implies I am blaming them individually for this?

          If I told you that black men are much more likely to be sentenced heavily for the same crimes, abused or killed by cops… would you think that means I am implying that that is their fault?

          If I told you that trans people have higher suicide rates… am I also implicitly saying that is their fault?

          How…are you reading a causal or morally prescriptive blame into these statements that are just data, just statistics… after I have already stated that obviously these are systemic problems that require systemic solutions?

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            If you understand that these systemic issues will only be solved by systemic changes then that’s it.

            Idk why you keep replying