• WhatTrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    And your solution is… to let the trolley roll over them anyway while feeling morally superior. Unless you have some plan of removing the trolley before January, you are choosing to let it crush them anyway. Choosing to not vote or pull the lever is also a choice that you will have to live with and one that requires moral justification.

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      2 months ago

      Not everyone is capable of comprehending a nuanced and complex solution.

      You offer no evidence of any capacity to question the contrivance of a despicable “problem.”

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        2 months ago

        “I don’t have any moral responsibility because I believe the trolley shouldn’t exist in the first place.” Totally nuanced and not completely missing the point of the analogy at all. If only everyone knew we could just magically make the trolley disappear we could have skipped over the decades of philosophy written about the trolley problem because the solution is so easy!

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          2 months ago

          I mean you said those words, no need to beat yourself up cause you have a little straw on your face.

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              2 months ago

              You quoted yourself, then attacked the strawman with all you had.

              You then expect me to defend your made up straw argument, failed.

              Since you seem to need it, I’ve explained it to you like a 5 year old.

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                2 months ago

                Yes, it’s totally a strawman. You definitely don’t think that we should not pull the lever and instead question why the trolley exists. That’s definitely not what your original comment said. Because those two are mutually exclusive anyway. We can only ever do one thing, like question the existence of the trolley or pull the lever to save more lives. It’s definitely not possible to vote to keep things from getting worse while also working the other 364 days to dismantle the trolley.

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                  2 months ago

                  How incredibly privileged and ignorant must one be to believe their lives are being kept from “from getting worse” under Harris?

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                    2 months ago

                    Yes of course. They will definitely get the same outcome whether Trump or Harris wins. Trump totally wouldn’t do things Harris wouldn’t to make the lives of immigrants and trans people worse. After all, they both support military camps for immigrants and bans on trans healthcare, right?

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              2 months ago

              I can’t improve anyone’s reading comprehension from where I stand.

              Who said it was my responsibility to offer a simplistic solution to an undefined problem?