Summary

Undocumented Chinese men are alarmed by Trump’s plan to prioritize their deportation, citing baseless national security concerns about “military-age” immigrants.

Many fled political persecution or economic hardship and reject claims of being a threat.

Legal experts warn of racial profiling and expanded ICE raids, urging immigrants to know their rights. Deportation fears grow as China cooperates in repatriation efforts.

Chinese immigrants express anxiety over family separations and harsh consequences if returned, emphasizing they seek safety and stability, not harm.

Critics call Trump’s policies cruel and unjustified.

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    7 days ago

    Why yes I do have a memory disorder, thanks for reminding me. I must’ve forgotten.

    But, I think you’re confused about what I’m saying there. I’m not saying that the evolution of language is “based on statistics and aggregate numbers”, and I don’t see how it could be interpreted that way. I’m saying that language naturally evolves, and that the definition of racism that I see most commonly has evolved into including negative statements about a race based on factual statistics. For example, “80% of [insert race here] commits [insert type of crime here]”. Even if it were true, that would be considered racist. If you don’t agree, ok, I’ll use your definition.

    Anyways, I’m not sure why I’m arguing about this. You literally agreed with a comment calling an entire race of people troglodytes who the op was ashamed to share their genetics with. I’m pretty sure it was satire. So. Yeah, idk what else to say here

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      Facts aren’t racist, they’re facts. “80% of ___ commits ___ crime” is not racist if it’s true.

      And, again, please do show me evidence of a definition of racism that includes true statements.

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        Facts aren’t racist, they’re facts. “80% of ___ commits ___ crime” is not racist if it’s true.

        Ok, then you’re not racist for pointing out that white people are responsible for some horrible things. You would still be racist for calling them troglodytes though.

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            1. You’re generalizing that trend to the whole race

            2. You’re assigning all the blame to white people when other races also increased their support of Trump (eg. it doubled among black men)

            3. Including the people who didn’t vote, I’m pretty sure every race has a majority of ignorant people, yet you only call white people troglodytes

            In short, you’re making it more about race than it is. I propose the much more accurate delineation that uninformed people elected Trump. It’s valuable to note that white people did that the most, but with all the caveats above I think the generalization is unwarranted.

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              I’ll say a similar thing to you to what I said to the other person who is very upset that people dare to blame white men for things…

              When Native Americans say, “the white man stole our land,” are they racists?

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                Why are we ignoring white women? Your numbers aren’t quite as good in that department. Still >50%, but we seem to have gotten a bit narrower for no reason here, no?

                Anyways, no, they aren’t racist, because white people did steal their land. They were the ones making all the decisions and they were overwhelmingly of the mind that native americans were a worse race. They perpetrated a literal racial genocide. Did they all do this? No, but they nearly all supported it. You can make the claim that the overwhelming majority of the entire race was racist and was totally on board with colonialism. So, you can say that the race, as a whole, is to blame. It would still be racist to blame an individual white person who had no part in the genocide. But the claim validly applies to the race as a whole, so it’s not racist to make under your own definition.

                That’s very different from white people having a ~5% majority with very strong internal disagreements when they elected Trump.

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                  Anyways, no, they aren’t racist, because white people did steal their land. They were the ones making all the decisions and they were overwhelmingly of the mind that native americans were a worse race. They perpetrated a literal racial genocide.

                  The ones making all the decisions? So just like now with U.S. politicians and Palestinians? Also U.S. politicians and sick people? Also U.S. politicians and the environment?

                  Did they all do this? No, but they nearly all supported it.

                  So just like now?

                  Not seeing the difference yet.

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                    The ones making all the decisions? So just like now with U.S. politicians and Palestinians? Also U.S. politicians and sick people? Also U.S. politicians and the environment?

                    …yes…? And?

                    So just like now? Not seeing the difference yet.

                    I don’t know how to tell you this but if you don’t see the difference between 90% support with negligible resistance in the native american case, and 45-62% support (I’m dividing it based on education, not gender, since that makes more sense) with 35-51% opposition in the Trump case, you are so far from the reality that I see that you’ve reached escape velocity. In no world is a 10% lead “nearly all”.