Summary

Undocumented Chinese men are alarmed by Trump’s plan to prioritize their deportation, citing baseless national security concerns about “military-age” immigrants.

Many fled political persecution or economic hardship and reject claims of being a threat.

Legal experts warn of racial profiling and expanded ICE raids, urging immigrants to know their rights. Deportation fears grow as China cooperates in repatriation efforts.

Chinese immigrants express anxiety over family separations and harsh consequences if returned, emphasizing they seek safety and stability, not harm.

Critics call Trump’s policies cruel and unjustified.

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      6 days ago

      Hi spujb. I had a very long debate about this already but feel free to discuss this through the lens of CRT without me. I’m not familiar enough with the specifics anyways.

      being correct on the internet is my second favorite hobby

      lmao. What’s your first?

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        6 days ago

        Yeah no problem. I read through your debate and I feel that CRT is the lens which both of you need to come to an understanding. If not today, just want to give you that nugget if you are interested in future investigation :)

        What’s your first?

        cranking 90s in fortnite

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          It’s something I’m somewhat interested in, and it’s fairly important. Maybe I’ll do some proper research on it the next time I have some free time. Thanks for the suggestion!

          cranking 90s in fortnite

          Haha nice. Hope you get some time to do a few rounds this season :)

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            Hell yeah !

            Despite the whole culture war where left leaning folks defended CRT, I get lots of downvotes when I bring up how it can actually benefit discussions by removing the need to endlessly debate whether the other person is racist. So it’s heartening to hear one person had their interest piqued along with the regular onslaught of downvotes :)

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          both of you need to come to an understanding.

          That’s going to be difficult since he ran away whining about how I was daring to suggest he was a racist under false pretences.

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            Fuck off Squid, I’m trying to enjoy my holiday. I have done nothing but participate in good faith. Not just as in a veneer of politeness, but truly to attempt to engage your real beliefs and express my own, fairly reasonable ones. But that’s proven impossible since you’ve been intent on doing nothing but make accusations, twist my words to the worst possible interpretations, nitpick irrelevant points, and respond only to attack my position rather than to understand it. You’ve barely even presented your own. If you want to imagine me as some racist crybaby who can’t handle your epic takedowns, go ahead, but don’t claim it as reality.

            I know you’re not a lost cause, so I’ll leave you with some advice. Don’t assume everyone is your enemy. You’ll have a much more enjoyable time trying to engage and have a real conversation than trying to put others down. You might discover that the person you assumed the worst of has essentially the same position as you, just from a different perspective. Feel free to respond and take the last word; I won’t reply. I wouldn’t have replied to this either but it was especially hostile so I felt the need to chime in.

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              Don’t assume everyone is your enemy. You’ll have a much more enjoyable time trying to engage and have a real conversation than trying to put others down. You might discover that the person you assumed the worst of has essentially the same position as you, just from a different perspective.

              I’m not the one who started this by calling someone a racist. That would have been you. Take your own advice, bud.

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                i don’t often find myself defending you, but credit where due: yep. opening these discussions (specifically over “reverse racism”) with accusations of racism leads nowhere, in short due to the vast diversity in how people understand the word.

                when people on the internet instead perform discourse over terms which are more concretely and widely accepted, discussion actually begins constructing mutual understanding instead of falling to what is essentially name calling, and can even begin to close the gap between folks’ understanding of “race.”

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            i pick no side here, both of you were acerbic in the discussion which is why it went nowhere. i hope you can use the lens of crt in future debates so they don’t end up so frothing with rage is all.