• Sybil@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    We should define an ideology by its actions, not just its claims.

    no. we should judge people by their actions. we should judge ideologies by their propositions.

    • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      should judge ideologies by their propositions.

      Okay, I see. If we are judging ideologies purely by “wouldn’t it be nice if” then anarchism is clearly superior.

      Well, on second though, no. “wouldn’t it be nice if we didn’t get defeated by fascists” certainly has a pretty nice ring to it…

      • Sybil@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Okay, I see. If we are judging ideologies purely by “wouldn’t it be nice if” then anarchism is clearly superior.

        you almost got me

        Well, on second though, no. “wouldn’t it be nice if we didn’t get defeated by fascists” certainly has a pretty nice ring to it…

        i’m not saying i have a good plan. i’m saying i am suspicious of any plan that concentrates power, and i believe my suspicion is warranted.

        • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          9 months ago

          i’m not saying i have a good plan. i’m saying i am suspicious of any plan that concentrates power, and i believe my suspicion is warranted.

          I mean, look up the life expectancy of China vs India over time. Place your suspicion against the facts.

          • Sybil@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            9 months ago

            The fact is that China has police and prisons and banks. I don’t know for sure but I would guess they even have landlords. That’s not my revolution.

            • brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              9 months ago

              Of course it isn’t, because you don’t have a revolution. If we did things your way, we’d still be living under feudalism.

                  • Sybil@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    9 months ago

                    you know I dwelt on this a bit, and the revolution was thrown by the people and it wasn’t thrown for mercantilism. it was just against the feudal system. but what followed was mercantilism. merchants didn’t throw the revolution. I don’t know how you got the conclusion that the French revolution was a mercantilist revolution. I honestly can’t think of a single mercantilist revolution. The closest thing I can imagine are the American revolution and possibly the piracy of the 18th century.