• Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    American obsession with tips is second only to our obsession with making sure it’s super easy to get guns. It’s culturally embedded that tipping is a good thing which is exactly what all these employers want people to think as they continue to underpay.

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      5 days ago

      Tipping is a good thing. It’s a way to reward good work.

      But they only work if they’re not mandatory and we can keep 100% of it

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        Tipping is …. a way to reward good work.

        It hasn’t been this for most of my life. Tipping is an essentially mandated addition to a few specific job types to get basic service and to replace practically non-existent wages (and to overpay in relation to their peers)

        I pay tips to get served at all, and to keep my food from being tampered with.

        I willingly paid higher tips during pandemic to the people risking their health in customer facing jobs. However I object to the new normal of 20%+, I object to tips being added automatically, I object to required tips before any service, and I object to so many more jobs demanding tips. I especially object to being charged tips on self-service.

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        5 days ago

        Nah, strong disagree here. There’s no ifs. Systems this broken should be replaced not nurtured. Your attitude is a pervasive on in the states though. The idea of not tipping is viewed somehow as elitist or greedy. I participate in the practice as a member of society, short of massively organized protest type actions, the only way change comes here is legislative, but that’s like hoping for better gun laws. One off individual refusals to tip accomplish nothing, but doing some education is a move in the right direction.

        See https://www.huffpost.com/entry/abolish-tipping_n_5991796

        As a very easy to read intro, but there is lots written on this. Don’t forget the tipping culture in the US is pretty unique. While present elsewhere the dependance on tipping as income is a pretty rare thing - it’s not a brave wild experiment to try to do away with it. With appropriate legislation workers would only benefit.

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          In Europe it works well. Sometimes I don’t get any tips and it’s absolutely fine, some other times I get invited for a drink or even food, some other times I just get some money (tips are called “Trinkgeld” in German, “drinking money”, which accurately reflects their purpose). It’s not part of my wage, I’m getting paid properly, it’s just something on top of it (and when I get tips, I get to keep 100% - it’s money specifically for my enjoyment as a way of thanking me for bringing others enjoyment).

          The tipping culture you have in the USA can’t really be considered a tipping culture, it’s just that customers are paying the workers’ wages. And you even force people to tip instead of reserving it for good service. I absolutely don’t support this way of tipping.