• areyouevenreal@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I don’t think you understand why people even want socialism or what it means to be a socialist. Socialism states that we are oppressed by the ruling class which are the capitalists. According to most socialist doctrine the government is controlled in part or entirely by the capitalists.

    But sure, let’s all form up into groups that either think only socialism works or only capitalism works and try to misapply these to sectors of the economy where they’ve already been proven not to work. That makes sense!

    You also don’t know anything about socialist economics. There are many socialist economic theories, a whole toolkit. Socialism isn’t a single tool or a single group of people and ideas. Heck even capitalism has different variations, although less diverse than socialist ideology.

    What you are talking about is hybrid economy which is also an ideology. You are also starting with the assumption that democracy is real and the government is acting in good faith. Neither of those are necessarily true especially if you live in the US.

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      8 months ago

      That all sounds exhausting. Maybe we should just raise taxes on the rich to pay for social programs?

      Does that really need to be slotted into an ideology before doing it?

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        8 months ago

        You said you vote, then say it’s exhausting to look into socialist policies. Can you not extend the same effort you put into voting for local, state, and federal representatives and policies to your employer?

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          8 months ago

          Opportunity costs. Time I spend on endless dialectics or whatever is time I’m spending making an effort to actually improve things.

          Less time spent on figuring out where an issue fits into a made up framework means more time spent actually thinking about the issue and doing something about it.

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            8 months ago

            I’m asking if you can put the same effort of voting for government shit into your employers. Not to research socialist schools of thought. The main socialist ideals that I’m aware of that I think have the most support are those for democratizing the workforce.