• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    Sure its subjective, but the results of known, so we can make a judgment on their value as purposes.

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      7 months ago

      Yes, we certainly can.

      The main problem that I think is happening is that people dont have any real purpose outside of religion

      My judgment is that this opinion is a crock. The value I place on it is “worthless drivel”.

      My judgment and value is, of course, a subjective opinion itself, with no inherent value greater (or lesser) than your own.

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        7 months ago

        Of course that is your opinion, you have been trained by the modern atheist types that religion is bad and that when its gone the world will be a better place. That idea is so obviously wrong with just a momentary glace at history.

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          7 months ago

          You’ve been brainwashed by the clergy into that mindset. That idea is so obviously wrong with just a momentary glance at rationality.

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            7 months ago

            What if you were brain washed into what you believe? What are the chances there is a God in your guestimation?

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              7 months ago

              Ah, we’re going to explore Pascal’s wager?

              There is a distinct possibility that God exists. There’s another distinct possibility…

              Scientists conduct experiments. Trials. They want to see if a drug is effective, so they arrange two groups of people, give one the drug, and the other a placebo. A “blinded” study. They hide as much of the study as the can from the participants, to rule out confirmation bias and other experimental errors.

              When these scientists discover that their subjects have become aware of experimental conditions, the data is contaminated from that point forward.

              Scientists don’t just conduct experiments on people. They also conduct experiments on lab rats. They have a grand purpose for each and every rat in their study, but that purpose is to further development of a drug that will be used to save humans. They are completely unconcerned with the lives of their rats. The wants, needs, and noble purposes the rats might have for their own rat society.

              The interesting part is when the scientists realize that the rats have discovered the scientists, the experiment. When they comprehend the objective of the scientists. What happens when the rats become unblinded to the experiment?

              To answer your question, the likelihood that the Christian god exists is about as high as the likelihood of God being the principal investigator in some cosmic study, and our reward for discovering him is annihilation.

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                7 months ago

                That was a long answer to say that you think with near certainty that there is no God, and that evolution would be the explaination?

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                  7 months ago

                  Don’t put words in my mouth. I said absolutely nothing about evolution.

                  I will be happy to summarize: for all you know, belief in God could end the universe.

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                    7 months ago

                    I guess you can summarize, the question was “What are the chances there is a God in your guestimation?”