I have a WebDav server that contains some movies and shows. I use Infuse on Apple stuff and NOVA Video Player on Android to watch these. The directory is not organized, file names aren’t manually adjusted, and the movies and shows are mixed together. Yet, both of these programs are able to index recursively, get metadata, create a library and let me watch my media without issues.

Kodi, on the other hand, seems to be unable to index nested directories, requires you to tell it what type of media is in the individual directories and cannot identify anything correctly unless I go and manually rename directories/files. It also is exclusive for TV usage and not very suitable for desktop.

So, are there alternative programs to Kodi, ideally better suited to desktop usage or extensions I can install to make it work properly?

  • Wolf314159@startrek.website
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    Just organize your library properly and pretty much every software will manage it better. There are options for organizing and renaming them mostly automatically, like EastTAG or filebot. Some people use Sonarr and Radarr to organize shows and movies, but those are probably overkill for you. The various *arrs will be more useful if you’re consuming new media through a server hosting Plex or Jellyfin. Kodi is also a waste if the library isn’t already meticulously organized and you don’t need a 10 foot interface.

    If you’re only consuming on desktop and you insist on being disorganized, then why even bother with anything other than VLC? It runs on Linux, Windows, iOS, and Android.

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      People keep talking about needing to “organize your library” but what do you mean by that? Is metadata tagging sufficient? Or does Kodi care about filenames and directory structure?

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    kodi is best as a front-end for an already curated library. ive used it extensively since the xbmc days…

    i use mediaelch to scrape, generate metadata files and rename files and folders into a standard way. it [can] generate things in a kodi-compatible format. kodi is set to just pull in that data. i concurrently use emby (jellyfin) to access that same metadata.

    your problem is conflating the curation of your library with the applications that will use it.

    kodi does need a full computer to run. thats where emby comes in. its for viewing the same shit on any other device

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      your problem is conflating the curation of your library with the applications that will use it.

      This is not some extremely hard job that’s way out of the scope of a media center. As I said, other platforms already have applications that can do this without breaking a sweat. I’ve never had to manually organize my files in years in any other platform.

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        i cant even imagine wanting a mess of stuff as you describe, or expecting some media app to manage that mess on the fly. but hey, if thats how you want it. good luck.

        ive got 2500 movies and > 35,000 episodes in my library.

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          It’s not a mess on properly implemented clients but I also have a fraction of the media you have. I put new stuff in, they get indexed, I watch them, I delete them. I am not going to do extra work for the privilege of using Kodi 🤷

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            i do zero work for kodi. i curate a library i care about and that is not your end goal. kodi is definitely not for the ‘watch and delete’ crowd.

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              Well, that’s why I’m asking for alternatives but I also know a few people who rip a ton of blurays and throw them to a server and never curate it, and those are the only people self-hosting their media that I know anyway.

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                  Not really, as those aren’t available on Linux directly. The ‘how to make kodi work’ bit is because my research didn’t give me any apps that can do this by default so I thought kodi might have extensions or forks I missed.

  • ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    The main alternatives to Kodi are Jellyfin and Plex but I suspect those will have the same problem if your library isn’t organized. How well are NOVA and Infuse handling your library? Like are they able to tell queue up the next episode of a TV show? Because Kodi is basically trying to be more like a local Netflix than “just a video player”.

    Jellyfin and Plex are web-based so you’ll get a a far more consistent experience across devices than Kodi. But they’ll generally expect Movies to be in one folder, TV shows in another, and will have some expectations of the file name. They won’t open the file to figure out what movie it is.

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      The webdav server is on a pretty old device so I can’t host Jellyfin or Plex on it as it can’t handle decoding. The other two programs mentioned can index the library perfectly. They both identify TV series, break up the episodes into seasons, get metadata down to individual episodes and I don’t need to do anything manually.