Let’s see here, RFK wants to ban vaccines and promote raw milk.
There is currently a bird flu epidemic in dairy cattle from bird droppings getting into the feed.
Consuming raw milk is one of the few ways humans can become infected with bird flu.
I’m sure this will be fine and the virus won’t mutate to allow for human to human transfer, it if it does luckily it only has a 56% mortality rate compared to the Covid morality rate of ~4% during its peak.RFK is secretly a flu virus wearing a human suit.
[preface and disclaimer: I’m remembering off the top of my head something I read over 30 years ago, details may not be exactly correct]
Not sure whether you remember the chapter of Sideways Stories from Wayside School, by Louis Sachar, in which there was a student who nobody liked, who was a real asshole and wore a stinky raincoat. The kids kept trying to take off his raincoat, but underneath was another, stinkier raincoat, just layers and layers of progressively stinky raincoats, and with every raincoat removed, the kid just became a bigger asshole and his laugh louder and more high-pitched.
At the very end, he turned out to be a dead rat in a pile of stinky raincoats.
That’s what the whole administration is shaping up to be. Except we knew this was coming and allowed it to happen, so I guess that, ultimately, we are the dead rat.
What a crazy story lol. I’ve never heard of that story until now.
The plot twist is that the worm in his brain didnt die, its pulling the strings to keep him going and further the global parasite agenda
In the US, right now, the dairy farms where they let the cats drink raw milk saw half their cats die.
This is an actual thing.
Edit based on comments below: The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.
However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.
You’re sort of right ( based on the article I think you read about) The cats drank bird flu contaminated raw milk which led to them dying. For that reason, raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk would
n’t be as dangerous.have reduced the chances of the bird flu, and other illnesses, from people that drink it. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/concerning-spread-of-bird-flu-from-cows-to-cats-suspected-in-texas/*Edited
I am more than a little confused.
According to your article
By March 20, over half of the farm’s 24 or so cats died from the flu.
That is pretty much exactly what I said
I learned about this at a CBRNE conference from people familiar with the situation.
Yeah, that’s exactly what you said. He also said raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk is safer for humans (??). I think he’s drunk or just very dumb. Either way, just ignore him.
You’re right my original statement could have been worded better. I’ve edited it, and responded to the other user with some clarifications. https://sh.itjust.works/post/28117434/15082665
Sure I’ll clarify. The implication from your statement is that raw milk can kill half of cats very frequently, which is seemingly untrue. What seems to be the situation is that raw milk from cows infected with the bird flu can lead to a 50% fatality rate for cats that drink it. So if cats consume raw milk, will there be a near 50% fatality rate? Not necessarily, but it seems like that would be the case if the cows in question are infected with the bird flu (based on articles).
The reason why I want to differentiate between what you said, and the article is I can imagine someone saying: “nearly half of cats die drinking raw milk!” to which a skeptic may find online people talking about cats not dying at such a high rate from drinking raw milk, leaving out the fact that the bird flu infected cows is the issue. This can dissuade skeptics from believing the reality that raw milk increases the chances of illness from the bird flu, as well as other sicknesses.
If I’m wrong about the fact that nearly 50% of cats are dying, all the time, from raw milk, feel free to provide an article so i can educate myself.
Thanks. The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.
However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.
On the plus side the high mortality rate should lower the spread.
True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.
But on the plus side, dumb people actively infect themselves and get removed from the gene pool.
But on the minus side, other people don’t have the choice to completely avoid those dumb people and thus minimize their risk of infection.
If they did, covid wouldn’t have been a tenth as bad as it was/is.
I don’t care. Do you?
They voted for this, they can deal with the consequences.
Normally I’d say that I don’t want this to happen to a bunch of people who don’t deserve it, but drinking raw milk is preventable and not contagious, and therefore entirely self-contained, right? So yeah, sow those seeds, guys, I’m totally owned.
True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.
I’m sorry I only see benefits here.
That’s because you’re overlooking the fact that stupid people mingle with other people whether they want to or not.
If you don’t have at least a handful of truly idiotic coworkers and neighbors, you’re probably a self-employed hermit…
I have idiotic coworkers but I also work from home so my exposure in minimal.
You still interact with other people in person, and one or more of them interacts with the public.
If you learned nothing else from CoViD-19 I would hope you at least learned that you are only a couple degrees of separation from a hotbed of infection at most.
You might misunderstand. The bird droppings did not accidentally get into the cow feed. Humans put it there intentionally to save money. Just search for “poultry litter” or “broiler litter” and “cattle feed” if you don’t believe me. The people who came up with this idea are actually proud of it.
trump’s appointments are in the style “Who is the worst person i know for the job that lives inside my colon?”
if Pablo Escobar was still alive, he’d probably have been appointed head of the DEA
Junior’s gonna get that job.
He’s Colombian, that won’t fly for Trump
El chapo is a better candidate
the guy responsible for the death of 83 Samoans has more health advice …
Oh god he’s gonna kill someone
He’s already killed a lot of people.
He also likely killed some people with his anti COVID vaccine rhetoric back in 2020.
Don’t worry, the worms will protect your brain…
Then why was everyone eating horse dewormer during the pandemic?
Well isn’t that the question of the decade?..
Again
That’s the plan.
Try listening to the Behind The Bastards podcast about this guy if you can spare the time.
He is messed up far more than you think.
And to be clear, it’s just a regular podcast so listen to it with any app you want. “Wherever you get your podcasts” and all of that.
Thank you.
Raw milk is dangerous. When I was growing up people would get sick all the time from raw milk it gets contaminated all the time.
We can’t even manage to keep listeria out of our waffles and deli meats snd have e coli onions but sure, raw milk will be no problem.
I think everyone is making way too much out of this. What could possibly go wr-
Oh.
Weird, I didn’t get a paywall with the first one.
I didn’t either.
Nor did I.
I’m fairly certain, they just all got together to make a list of all the stupid things they could do to own the libs.
The neat thing about this one, is that It only hurts the people that are going to follow him. The people who didn’t vote for that side know better.
You would hope so, but there’s just as many ‘crunchy’ people on the left as there are in the right.
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Anarchists are not known for acknowledging the benefits of government regulation.
She is VERY fortunate that she didn’t get much sicker!
Get ready, there’s going to be a whole lot of peeling off the warning labels.
I wonder, well they outright outlaw vaccines, or they just be privatized only…
RFK’s version of the conspiracy is that vaccines are a scam inflicted by private pharma. Given his druthers, he would probably outlaw not just vaccines, but all corporation-produced medicine.
I suspect he’s just preparing to make the pharmaceutical lobby pay their dues.
If the state were to fund it adequately… I find little flaw with it.
Mfw the lefty “natural” bullshit peddled by health nuts gets tacit approval from my conservative parents trying to eat “traditionally” aka raw everything.
Most of those people are now all in for Trump. I’m not even sure I’d call them “left” in the way that people mean anyway, even before they became Trump supporters.
Unfortunately, vaccines aren’t all 100% protective. And there are people who get the disease even though they were vaccinated. That means that the idiots who don’t get vaccinated can spread the virus to people who wouldn’t have gotten sick otherwise. Which of course doesn’t mean that vaccination is bad, only that it is not perfectly protective. For example, I have had all the Covid vaccinations up to the day I got Covid. I only knew I had Covid because my wife, who was one booster behind me, got sick with Covid so even though I felt fine, I tested and saw that I also had Covid. But the vaccine kept me from getting sick.
This is the dumbest shit I swear to god. Fuck this timeline already.
Dude is gonna get ppl killed…raw milk…jesus
Unless he also outlaws pasteurized milk, I’ll have 0 sympathy for any adults that die drinking raw milk. This country seems to be in dire need of a toxic cleansing. I’m sad COVID didn’t do the job better.
Dude, you have to be careful these days. Reading labels like a hawk.
National pharmacy chains like CVS and Walgreens stock homeopathic and naturopathic remedies on the same shelves as the actual medicine (or the bullshit they tell us is as good as pseudoephedrine. Fuck you, you know it’s not). Most of it is barely labeled as such.
If we are hopeful, that’s what RFK should go after in fact. Homeopathy.
But, judging from where he starts, skoleotherapy, as in worm treatment, is the new fashion for you.
I wanna play Plague Inc again.
While I get it and I wish people were more informed it’s because education has been dismantled on purpose. No one deserves do die, especially from the actions of others directly or indirectly. We really need to fight for better education standards and not stop, not go and dismantle the department of education…
The only thing covid did was fhinder education with online classes and such. This is the year that the children born (19/20) right at the start of the pandemic are going to kinder they need all the support they can get…
lets be better and do better, you can’t fight fire with fire…
My (night school) education, personally, improved quite a lot with COVID. Yep, it was disrupted. But instead of spending two hours in transport I’d be at my desk. Instead of just sitting in a boring depressing auditory with my ADHD, ASD and possibly PTSD, I was at my desk with tea and my laptop and maybe some food and my dog nearby.
Never heard of a fire break, eh?
Be stirring as the time; be fire with fire; Threaten the threatener and outface the brow Of bragging horror
Shakespeare
You haven’t really tasted milk until you’ve sucked it right out a cow and finally we’ll have a government that makes sure that Americans know that taste too.
I’ve had fresh milk from the cow. I also now why pasteurization is required. I’m willing to forego that small pleasure in order that other people don’t die horribly.
Shifting yourself to death is what the founder intended and their imagined intent is literally all that matters.
How do you fail to ask yourself why it was pasteurized in the first place?
This is a situation where we let Darwinism take it’s course. The people who are stupid enough to listen to this are going to drink it, get sick, and then wonder what happened. Maybe I’m more negative than usual, but fuck em. Let them fuck themselves.
They’re going to kill out kids, not just their kids and themselves. RFK Jr is a plague rat.
I look forward to the establishment of c/HermanCainAward
Yeah but before they pass, they’re gonna drain money from the failing health care system, which hurts everyone more than we are
Nah man, this has been a long time coming. I agree: fuck all of them.
Evolution in action.
Yeah but we’re talking about stupid people. In their brains they’re probably convinced that milk is not heat treated to kill pathogens but because of government population control or something.
If I and my friends and family could be certain of getting immunized against the inevitable H5N1 pandemic, this wouldn’t bother me so much. But RFK jr. will combat the flu with honey and whole grains and the death toll will make Covid look like a cold. Thinning the herd. Maybe we’ll get lucky and RFK jr & Trump and his true believers will get it first.
Hilariously, they’ll be culling their own herd, so to speak. You just know the MAGAts will never wear masks again, even to save their own lives.
Only if there’s things like vaccines for the rest of us, which we only got when we did due to the government.
Fair point. It’s going to be an absolute shitshow. If worm brain and felon fuckrat eviscerate the FDA, I don’t even know vaccines would continue to exist in the US.
Certainly, pharmaceuticals have a vested interest in continuing to produce them. Best case, they defer to regulatory standards from other nations and the FDA becomes a rubber stamp agency. Worst case, they’re allowed to peddle dangerous products without proper trialing.
The biotech industry is already extremely nervous: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/15/rfk-jr-uncertainty-biotech-startups
They don’t like this at all, with the hope being RFK just focuses on other stuff.
Or… it could make investor money fly away and collapse the US biotech industry. Great.
Today’s Republican Party didn’t get into their position of awesome power by listening to experts…
“I think, the people of this country have had of experts” - Michael Gove, (during UK brexit campaign)
Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.
I mean, my friend next door used to drink off the cows’s teats. His Mom would scold him for it, but he did it to show off. We used to milk their three “city cows”. Literally the cows would sleep in their garage and then walk to pasture on an every day basis. They would get milked every morning and we would walk to their house and buy a couple of liters from them. Sometimes cheese or bulgaros yogurt.
Everyone loved the cows. They smelled like cows but you could safely pet them and not expect feces on your hands.
The cows we get milk from are all rolling around in feces in confined space and they eat dry moldy feed. Like that stuff is total animal abuse and prone to end up giving someone a cow Bourne disease of some kind.
My neighbors also had pigs and we had pigs. That is why we never ate pig… cows are clean compared to pigs. Pigs will eat bugs smeared in pig feces. That is not normal really because pigs in the wild, although dirty, do not just swim in their feces like captive pigs do. If you ever want to go vegan for whatever reason, visit a captive pig farm. Learn that smell…then go to the butcher shop’s trash bin and learn that smell…then realize that when you get your meat in your fridge, the death smell is what you’re smelling. Makes me wanna puke 🤮 just thinking about it. And if your neighbors ever killed a pig, you would know it. Pigs don’t go down easy. That’s one positive thing I can definitely say about pigs. They know you’re gonna kill them and they scream like anyone would…as in a person. It churns you inside out hearing that scream and then when it stops you know it happened. Pigs don’t go down quietly.
Anyway don’t eat animals, but if you’re gonna eat milk or dairy, make sure it’s pasteurized! Any well understood retarded person like myself could agree 💯👍.
Best copy pasta I’ve seen in a while
Thanks, I do my best with dairy.
Yeah the state of factory dairy’s… You want that shit pasteurized. Feces everywhere. Cows have all kinds of diseases. Filthy environment. It all gets killed or deactivated by pasturing.
So do you think Trump will improve or worsen animal-welfare protections in agriculture? Which policy will let bad actors make a quick buck at the expense of the rest of us?
He signed a law against very specific animal torture of pets (don’t look it up) in his first term. He also signed a very specific law for increasing the speed of pig slaughter lines IIRC. So no. Livestock animals will be even more fucked (if that’s even possible in the US) as he is in the hands of big animal ag. He loves his farmers in Iowa as he said recently. Now is the best time to look up how to go vegan. Or the worst considering the drop in availability of alternative meat products that’s about to come. Remember if you don’t pay for it animal ag has to consider their practices. A big producer of meat products in Germany (Rügenwalder)has a lot of its productline switched to plant based in the last years because of the demand.
I can’t imagine it’s going to be any better. I’m not sure I even find US/Can doing enough as is.
When we have a disease like bird flu roll through our herds, it seems like we just throw up our hands and say “oh well pasturing deactivates it”
But you still have a sick cow, even if they aren’t obviously symptomatic. They will produce less, treatments for other stuff will be less effective, they will be less healthy. And at the scale of most farms, all that has an effect. It just gradually makes things harder for farmers.
Long before there were factory dairies, there was already TB in milk.
Same friend got in trouble for shooting milk from the cow onto incoming city traffic in front of his house. All this as pre-teen kids ofcourse. You wouldn’t find a self respecting adult…yes you probably would.
Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.
Yeah, we’ll just make sure that the cows are healthy using the USDA’s regulatory capabilities. After Trump fires all of the career experts and replaces them with sycophants. What could go wrong.
Yup. Plus ebola is definitely not airborne if you walk slowly 6 feet behind everyone else.
Mmmmm bacon…
Trump wants the population to be closer to 100 million. He said that before the start of one of his press conferences to a journalist … something to the effect that “we could use 2/3 less of all of you.”
He is willing to kill off a lot of us to make his life easier. The USA elected a right wing Pol Pot.
You’ll work harder with a gun in your back,
For a bowl of rice a day,
Slave for soldiers til you starve,
Then your head is skewered on a stake
Now you can go where people are one
Now you can go where they get things done
What you need, my son
What you need, my son
Is a holiday in the USA
And if you kill off brown people, you solve their demographic “issue” (it’s not actually an issue, they’re just racists). Two birds with one stone.
With any luck MAGAts will self-select in removing themselves like they did during COVID.
