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Summary
Despite disavowing Project 2025 during the campaign, Trump’s transition team is now using its extensive database of vetted conservative candidates to help fill over 4,000 government positions.
Project 2025, criticized for its extreme policy proposals and links to Trump’s first administration, created a “conservative LinkedIn” of 10,000 candidates.
While some contributors are being tapped for key roles, others face rejection due to controversial stances.
Democrats, who used Project 2025 in campaign attacks, are warning of its influence on Trump’s agenda and planning policy responses.
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Lying liar lies again. We’re all horribly shocked.
Honestly, a lot of centrist are. They also don’t expect any of it to actually be implemented. Cue those leopards
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If you were one of those people who believed otherwise, you were probably one of those idiots taking every opportunity to share your fake concerns about genocide, and your intent to vote 3rd Party or not at all. Golf clap.
Hope everyone is ready to suffer.
I’d say blame it on conservatives. But you can also blame it on the absolute idiots that voted 3rd party, were single issue voters, or abstained from voting. They’re just as much to blame and just as stupid as Trump supporters.
That’s not what happened. The slice of America that turned hard against Harris was uninformed voters, not engaged leftists. That is absolutely clear in the exit polls. There was also a massive spike in google searches about whether Biden was still in the race ON ELECTION DAY. If you just have to blame someone other than Biden and Harris, that’s who you must blame. All the evidence says your terminally online theory is flat wrong.
Yea that’ll get those ppl to vote with you lmao
I appreciate the optimism about being able to vote in the future
Even if you can’t, I’ll still be able to.
I was talking about “those ppl” you mentioned. nothing to do with me.
I hate trump voters, but I hate the people who know how awful he is but stayed home even more.
Same.
I hate self important douche bags who are so used to basking in their own fart clouds that they can’t see how sanctimonious they are and can’t come to terms with the fact that maybe their fart sniffing ideology doesn’t work for all 300M other people in this country.
Especially when they turn around and call their political opposites sanctimonious fart sniffing hypocrites without acknowledging their own hypocrisy. It annoys me.
See the nation is healing already!
In which state did 3rd-party voters tip the presidential election results there?
Your reading comprehension skills suck. The original commenter mentioned TWO types of idiots. 1) the morons that voted third party, and 2) the defectives that ABSTAINED from voting.
I guess your brain only came equipped with 8GB of RAM, because you acted like OP gave you some clever GOTCHA moment by only mentioning 3rd party voters, while you completely disregarded OP including group #2 as well.
In the future, I recommend you avoid complex tasks, like, say, chewing gum and walking at the same time.
Present some evidence or shut the fuck up already.
Correction, they mentioned 3 types of idiots not 2.
They are just angry and trying to blame other people for their shitty candidates loss. If they can scapegoat other voters they can feel superior, it’s basically all to protect their fragile feelings.
Kind of sad really
Crows got to straw man I guess
Oh, they’re not angry. They’re just dismayed to learn how many C.H.U.D.s there are in this country who had no problems voting for a narcicistic, low IQ rapist after watching him fuck up for 4 years, and after attempting a coup. Like, seriously, out of all the Republicans to choose from, ya’ll decided Trump was your best and brightest TWICE. It’s like watching the fall of the Roman Empire in real-time.
I responded to the guy below you instead of to you post oops
You know what’s just as productive as blaming voters? Masturbating into a Kleenex. Unless you have a plan to nominate better voters next cycle (yes, if there is one) then your attention is better spent on how we fix a Democratic party that’s so pathetic that it lost to Trump twice.
If Rahm Emanuel or another establishment clone is the next DNC chair, get ready to see this happen again. That’s where the focus belongs for anyone who wants to fix this shit.
Voters saw Trump fuck up four years straight. He’s not wrong about that.
But voters have seen the Democratic Party slowly devolve into a cesspool of corrupt crony capitalism and campaign donor money for the past 50 years.
People don’t give a fuck anymore, and I don’t blame them,
Harris was a trash candidate.
I get it, blah blah blah, Trump is worse.
Harris is a trash candidate.
Just because Whoopi Goldberg and friends try to tell you what a good friend she is doesn’t change this fact. I hope you realize all the talk and news show hosts are in the millionaire class and are so far removed from the realities of everyday Americans… they also get the tax cuts for the wealthy Trump is going to pass, which is why they have no skin in the game.
Harris was a trash candidate. If you can’t see this simple fact, there’s probably less hope for you than for maga.
Americans are struggling.
You know what the democrats did? They tried to tell us that Biden is fucking FDR 2.0
The juicy turd I just dropped flushed down the toilet while typing this is closer to FDR 2.0 than Biden will ever be, by a long shot.
“their candidate”
Goes on to describe themselves and project it. Classy
But genocide joe or some shit
“Genocide Joe” passed more meaningful legislation for average Americans then most presidents. But the conservative propaganda machine won and made him seem like the devil incarnate because stupid Americans can’t discern fact from fiction.
stupid Americans can’t discern fact from fiction.
It’s almost as if all the attacks on education over the last 4-7 decades are bearing fruit.
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Oh you’re one of those idiots, got it.
You know who else disavowed what he wrote publicly to pacify his critics? Hitler with Mein Kampf. He kept repeating he wrote Mein Kampf in 1925 but had changed his views since. Guess what: he hadn’t.
And surprise-surprise, the Orange Utan hasn’t either. It’s almost like we didn’t see that one coming from a mile away…
And don’t think for a second that I’m the only one to see the striking parallel.
I have a friend who says things like “oh that project isn’t real its just a think tank”.
Nobody writes a document that long and detailed just as a little thought experiment. It was obviously a manifesto and I don’t know how so many people against project 2025 still voted for the party supporting it.
It had a 4!!! Percent approval rating. 4!!
And yet… he won the popular vote.
I’m an American in a poor red state. I really hope the FO portion of fafo hits us SUPER hard.
It’ll suck for me… but man it’ll be great to be that smug asshole reminding folks who they voted for.
In my county 23% voted Harris. So odds are good that dude in the lifted Ford is a trumpkin.
Fucking idiots…
he won the popular vote
Conspiracy theorist nonsense debunked by snopes.
Oh shit I hadn’t seen that.
Same, red county-district-state. I would hope the same but they won’t attribute it to their dear* leader. His Tariffs and GOP policy will fuck them too, but fox and podcasts will tell them it’s the deep state Democrats keeping them down. They all were doing the “this is Biden’s America” posts in 2020. GOP can do no wrong in their eyes. Used to be child rape was a deal breaker but even that is A-OK now, as long as the Democrats lose.
Yet she was part of the administration that got you that huge infrastructure project and new factory incentives the donvict will take credit for
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All the policy goals are the same as what’s been in the Republican platform for decades. The only thing Project 2025 adds is how to get there. Is Trump a useful idiot? Maybe, although it would be silly to operate under that assumption rather than believing he’s just as committed as the rest of them. Either way, the idea having seeped into the popular consciousness of the American voter that Project 2025 is something other than a serious plan for a Republican administration is an astonishing bit of doublethink. Orwell spins like a turbine in his grave.
Actually getting the policys in place is the hardest part of policy making. Now they’ll be able to do that.
We’re going to need to hook Orwell up to the grid. He’s going to produce a lot of spins in the next few years.
I thought it was considered unique in detailing how to get rid of checks and balances, ergo terminate democracy.
I don’t know how so many people against project 2025 still voted for the party supporting it.
Can you be truly against something if you cannot even be bothered to have the slightest idea what it is?
Trump has never read Project 2025. Or Mein Kampf. Or The Art of the Deal. Or any book in his life.
He might have listened to the audiobook version of Mein Kampf, but probably not in the original German like his dad would have.
Actually, his wife and his friends said they’ve only seen him actively read one book, which is a book of Hitler’s speeches.
That’s just what he wanted them to think. Inside the book, he had hidden a single Bazooka Joe comic that took him 5 years to read. And then he didn’t get the joke so he had to take another 5 years to read it. And he still didn’t get the joke so… basically he’s going to put anyone with a Bazooka Joe comic in their possession in front of a firing squad when he gets in charge.
Okay but bazooka firing squad sounds at least interesting
his dad read it because he was a fucking Nazi.
Exactly what I was getting at.
holy shit. well that explains quite alot
In other news, water is wet.
I’ve run into some trump voters who aren’t worried about project 2025 because “i’m going to vote against it in 2025” and it’s like… goddammit, why did the republicans get so good at propaganda so fast (hint: Russian money)
What? The mental gymnastics on these people…
No mental gymnastics are needed when they straight up don’t know how their own government works.
yeah. these are people who think the new president takes office election night, think the federal government does ballot measures, and haven’t ever really voted in a national election that wasn’t for president. it’s not mental gymnastics to not know things
I’m pretty sure 50 years ago, doctors would be calling it mental retardation.
You don’t even have to go back that far. It was still the accepted term in at least the 90s.
Did NBC do any of the sane washing that helped trump get elected?
Told and told and told by everyone with half a brain but as usual the nitwits wanna listen to the “entertainer”
They knew. They wanted this. The denying just gave them “plausible” deniability.
And that’s what makes them nitwits
That’s what makes them traitors.
Yes indeedy, speedy
So what are you going to do about it America?
It seems like everyone is waiting for another chance to vote. Voting isn’t the only political action.
If you want to prevent this agenda you still have options. I don’t just mean protests and riots, but organized labor.
A general strike would cripple them. Start organizing your workplaces, join unions, join community groups. The time for voting is over the time for direct action is now. You don’t have to wait until the whole project is implemented, you don’t have to wait for a disappointing Democratic candidate to gaslight you in 2028. Take action now, join a movement now. The more you do now the better off you’ll be in the future.
How does one go about looking for movements to join? Honestly asking. I’m assuming I can’t just type “labor movements near me” into Google maps, but I honestly don’t know where to start looking for trustworthy resources on this stuff.
By its nature it’ll vary in each community, political parties are always a safe bet, most areas will have socialists or communists and whether or not you identify as one of those they’ll likely have resources for labor organizations in the area. I’m not suggesting that everyone has to be a leftist, but just that leftists have been doing this work for decades and tend to organize.
The IWW union is an international union that provides support to people looking to organize their workplaces.
On the topic of unions, I’m sure most unions in your city would be willing to help answer your questions and give you guidance. They might have websites where you can reach out to ask for advice.
Your city’s pride parade or other socially conscious events like demonstrations will also see participation from these kinds of groups. It can be a good way to see what groups are operating in your city. For example your city might still have student protest encampments for Palestine on university campuses. Unions and political groups go to these and put material up at these.
Do that Google search! Looking for leftist, socialist, communist, anarchist, or labour unions based on trade in your city is actually not a bad way to get started.
I’m new to direct action myself and others might have better suggestions.
It’s ok to start small, like a community garden even. These are all part of a broader network that you’ll have exposure to once you are looking.
Nice, thanks for the advice! That’s super helpful for me, and hopefully anyone else that comes across this thread
don’t know where to start looking
Ergo first order of business, construct such list.
So what are you going to do about it America?
Nothing. We’re fucking pathetic.
A big part of the problem is those most impacted by these policies cannot afford to take time off to strike or protest. And I’m not sure if it’s as bad in America as it is in Canada but if there was a general labour strike, our Canadian politicians would just solve it by importing cheap labour.
That’s why organization matters, it has to be big and it has to be sudden. “Importing” labor isn’t immediate.
More likely they’ll use back to work legislation and deploy the police, but then they’ll remember why we have labor protections.
If they’re going to tear up the social contract and take everything away from us then they’ll see violence.
These laws exist because workers fought actual battles. Actual battles, domestically. If it must happen again it will.
Either way, most people aren’t willing to risk being fired/missing pay/being arrested because they need that money to pay rent and feed themselves. You can be as organized as you want, the system has pushed most of us to being wage slaves that have very little say in the matter. Even if importing labour isn’t immediate, i wouldn’t put it past governments to still let the economy collapse while they import labour just to prove a point about who makes the rules and has the control.
What role can systems of mutual aid among the organized play to address the risk and encourage continued participation (e.g. voluntary distribution of food to those who need it, temporary housing/boarding of siblings of the cause by those with room, etc.)?
I 100% don’t have an answer, this is just what comes to mind first when I read this.
Thats what I thought too. If we cared about each other enough we’d be able to feed and house ourselves while we demand better, but a lot of us are divided (which is their goal) and so we’d rather blame minorities or whatever group your politician told you ro hate.
I mean sure we can roll over and die too, future generations won’t look as kindly on that though
Americans keep bitching about wanting a better candidate but nobody steps up or gets off the couch.
There are lot of problems. The biggest is funding.
Most politicians come from money. Not all, but a good number. This, oddly enough, can make them a bit more independent since they don’t have special interests demanding their time to get their money. But depending on their motives for running, this can also make them very susceptible to corruption to make their money back.
If you don’t have money, you have to raise it. You can either do this by meeting with special interests (oil, pharma, etc.) and be their lapdog or you can solicit money from the public. Both have their pros and cons in terms of getting elected, staying elected, and making sure you can do the work you set out to do.
Let’s assume you have money and it’s untainted.
The second biggest problem you have is name recognition. If you are a nobody, no one is going to elect you. You have to earn name recognition by either winning several smaller elections, by being active in the community, or by being famous. Usually if your rich, you have name recognition so you can usually skip this step. But if you’re not, and you’re raising money the old fashion way, you need to get your name out there. You remember Joe Exotic? You know him because he ran a ridiculous campaign.
Let’s assume that you’re active in the community and you have pretty good name recognition.
The hardest hurdle is going to be that you have almost half of your electorate actively rooting against you.
IMO, the reason why you don’t see many young people in politics, even at the local level, is because all three of these steps seem so insurmountable. I looked into it. I never formed a committee or anything but the amount of money alone you have to raise is crazy.
You need a thick skin and you need to be willing to compromise, either your morals or your values, often both.
A better candidate did run. Any candidate who ran was better
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That’s always been his plan. And it’ll happen because these Heritage Foundation ghouls will run the government off-camera while Trump and his reality TV cabinet distract us with fights and absurd sound bites in between his golf rounds.
Nobody should be surprised by this.
America is just experiencing a case of all-time stupid. There’s no excuse that I can find that says Americans didn’t know about Project 2025.
If we’re in a ‘golden age’ of anything, it’s the golden age of ignorance and stupidity for America. Where’s my Brawndo?
When I was a kid it was a common belief that americans were just way more stupid than the rest of the world. Turns out it was worse, but that we were also really stupid for copying a lot of their dumb shit.
“Think of how stupid the average American is. Then, realize half the country is stupider that that.”
-St. George Carlin
Dude, the rest of the world elects Hitler wannabe’s like all the time.
The America of Idiocracy was waaaay better than what we’re going to get. I remember joking about how we were heading that way. Little did I know how quickly it would be so much worse.
Im in my 50’s. I feel so bad for my parents. So many good things have happened in their lifetimes, only for their twilight years to turn into non-stop devastating disappointment and the relentless reversal of so much progress.
Fox and Friends didn’t report on it.
When Trump and his team were effectively forced to respond by a deluge of other outlets covering it, Trump literally just got in an interview and said “I never read it”. He didn’t say he didn’t know about it, he didn’t say he didn’t agree with it, just “I never read it, I don’t know what it’s about” - which I believe because the guy barely reads anything according to all the sources I can find.
Remember that really ever since 2000, a LARGE amount of voters have checked out entirely. They get their politics third-hand from people who watched Fox or read an article and many don’t even do that, just going into a polling station and checking whoever’s name they’ve heard more in the last month or two. They’re not even low-information, they’re zero-information, and some, like my mother, are even negative-information, digesting objectively untrue facts and regurgitating them onto their personal political canvas (mom got deep into the Qanon panic because “parts of it felt true”).
I’m pretty sure he’s illiterate.
no this is not idiocracy.
“Thank you for choosing Carl’s Jr. You are a bad citizen. Your government is now the possession of Carl’s Jr.”
And why should anyone be surprised?
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Rumor of shitty thing republicans are planning
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Republicans deny shitty thing is being planned, that was just (insert republican official here) brought up, claim it’s just the official on their own.
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Months later republicans are trying to officially enact shitty thing they denied planning.
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