• yesman@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    81
    ·
    edit-2
    14 days ago

    By the time RFK jr. is done, the vegetables will have a warning label for Haber–Bosch nitrogen and MAGA will insist their food be grown on untreated human feces.

  • Obinice@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    64
    ·
    14 days ago

    Who in this day and age wouldn’t drink pasteurised milk?

    Besides like, properly stupid people, or people who think it’ll give them religious powers and other such nutters.

  • NounsAndWords@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    54
    ·
    14 days ago

    I think the best redirect would be to convince them to “self-pasteurize” their milk. You can make an entire ecosystem of grift products on the best home pasteurizers to avoid harmful toxins or whatever the current buzzword is.

      • qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        33
        ·
        14 days ago

        “It’s not that I’m against vaccines, it’s just that I want my body’s own antibodies to fight off the virus.”

        • mudmaniac@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          18
          ·
          14 days ago

          Time for killer T cell completion: 10 days. Time for virus to turn your lungs into mush: 4 days.

          “Sure thing there buddy! Good luck! Mind if I borrow your lawn mower? I’ll get it back to you next time I see you!”

        • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          14 days ago

          I damn near throttled someone who said that to me. They said the COVID vaccine was too risky, and they’d rather get a real immunity from actually getting it.

              • Szyler@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                13 days ago

                If they used this as their argument I’d be kinder to them, it means they want what a vaccine can give, so it’s just about MISSING information, not MISSinformation.

                • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  13 days ago

                  Sadly not the case. “The vaccine is untested, as any immunity that a vaccine gives you will be weaker than what you get from natural immunity. Your immune system will never get stronger unless you let it work. I’m gonna get COVID eventually no matter what, so I may as well get the good immunity without risking the side effects of the vaccine. It’s just a cold anyway, so I’m not risking much”.

                  That whole corner of the family is very ignorant and susceptible to misinformation. I’m just some guy who can explain things and show them CDC or WHO sources, which are unreliable and suspect. I don’t have the gravitas of a very confident tiktok creator or a podcaster.

                  I’m also a little salty at them because they were all excited to see my new twins until I asked if they could be up to date on their vaccinations since they were in the NICU (premature, all good now). Variously “my family will not get the COVID shot”, “the flu shot will give me the flu”, and “I shouldn’t need to get a Tdap booster, I’m tired of needles”.

      • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        14 days ago

        But you could also use it to separate them from their money, which is an even greater good.
        Also, it potentially keeps the people in their care who have no agency from getting listeria, which is up there with lining your pockets via virtuous con artistry in terms of moral virtue.

      • beveradb@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        14 days ago

        You incorrectly assume the grift products have to actually do anything. Just give them a few lights and a little fan at the back which spins for a few minutes to make it sound like it’s doing anything. Can be super cheap to make, it doesn’t even need a heating element!

    • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      13 days ago

      I believe with all my heart this will happen lol.

      Any problem or process that can be moved to the consumer

  • Sanctus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    38
    ·
    edit-2
    14 days ago

    I mean, we should have an image of the Germans who applied it to milk, pretty sure Pasteur did it for the booze and some other dudes were like “hey bro we did that same technique on milk and now way less babies die.”

  • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    14 days ago

    So you know the “is this toothbrush approved by the dental association of America” line from Home Alone (approximate transcription)
    my new joke is asking “is this milk pasteurized?” in that voice

  • zephorah@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    13 days ago

    Raw milk is a disease vector for H5N1 right now, and as been for most of the year.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2405371. (Location for the sick worker in the article: Texas)

    Why it doesn’t matter so much for those of us not working directly with cows is pasteurization. In my household, we’ve since switched to ultra pasteurized in the cases we’ve not been doing that already, just to play safest.

    The more humans that catch H5N1, the more likely it is to take and make a vector out of humans.

    To be fair, it is often good to avoid processing your food. However this does not include the cleaning aspect of that food. Would you suddenly stop washing your fruits and vegetables? Flashing a little heat on the milk for safety is fine. It doesn’t create the milk equivalent of beef jerky or a ritz cracker. If you’ve ever spent any time in a milking barn, among cows, or seen the milking process you might not even drink milk after. You’ll want bacteria and virus death in your milk.

    But wait, Zeph, surely this process is only effective for bacteria, we’ve always been taught that the same means of death for bacteria don’t typically work on viruses. (Antibiotics). Pasteurization is it’s own thing.

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7169671/

  • MeatPilot@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    14 days ago

    Edward Jenner floating right next to him going “looks like it’s going to get more crowded in the afterlife.”