• Cpo@lemm.ee
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    13 days ago

    I feel ashamed that the right wing government of the Netherlands was discussing to declare Syria a safe country not one month ago. This would prevent Syrian people to get asylum here in NL.

    Look at the devastating proof.

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      13 days ago

      While I would expect Syrian prisons to be just like that, mind that there are a lot of fakes now. Yes, many good people are being freed. But also many ISIS fighters are being freed, many common criminals are being freed, and many good people are likely being murdered for their faith not being Sunni Islam.

      See, those organizations that have taken power are jihadis. The northern ones are Turkey’s puppets, the central ones are ex-ISIS supported by Qatar (and declaring all sorts of nice things with a charismatic leader, but I think we’ll learn of a lot of gruesome shit after the shroud of enthusiasm falls), and the sourthern ones are kinda bland, but seem to have some silent agreement with Israel.

      The SDF/YPG, aka Syrian Democratic Forces, aka Rojava, are Kurdish-led and Communist. They were the most Western-supported and the most democratic force there (which is interesting with the way they cosplay Stalin’s USSR, but this is factual), but they were friendly with the Syrian regime, sort of allies with it against jihadis and Turkey. They control the eastern parts, on border with Iraq and with most of Syria’s oil.

      SDF is now being brutalized by Turkey again, and apparently those “revolutionaries” to the west are not going to negotiate with SDF. They are declaring they won’t hit Israel back (Israel is now occupying everything Druze-inhabited in Syria’s south, the Druze have a particular kind of Islam which they often don’t consider Islam at all, so it’s sort of an attempt at geopolitical engineering), and they are not saying anything rude to Turkey, but they haven’t said anything that can be interpreted as recognizing SDF’s right to exist. I may be wrong, of course.

      The point of this long text was - the revolutionaries are all controlled by some power in the general, geopolitically predatory understanding of the West. Which means that you’ll see a lot of things like Powell’s “chemical weapons sample”.

      This is not a case of “good defeating evil”, this is a case of “green defeating violet”.

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        13 days ago

        This answers a question I did not ask. I never even suggested HTS to be a force of good.

        But thanks for your contribution 😉

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          13 days ago

          I overthought your comment as something saying that Assad’s regime was bad, bad, but now it can be declared a safe country. Probably from some other news about that being done by some European country? I don’t know.

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            13 days ago

            Not with HTS (they have connections to IS), my comments was more along the line of “why did we think this was a safe country even before we knew HTS would take over”.

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              That’s easy to answer. It’s a long-standing colonial tradition to treat countries which abuse their own citizens, but not westerners, as safe. Doesn’t matter for which purpose.

              Those nostalgic over Victorian era should pay attention to what’s really happening around us and see that we are there again. Even today’s cultural wars are quite similar to Victorian moralism. Except, I guess, our time is not as stylish.

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    Oh, I thought it’s legit and started commenting before looking at the video.

    LOL, apparently none of you guys have ever been in real depression, to sit at home for long time and not eat well.

    Or none have seen real inmates of such prisons.

    You might consider tan a racial trait, but it’s not and the guy would be pale as a corpse. Nobody in a Syrian prison would help him get more sunlight. Especially if he were locked in such a place. Walls and floors she shows are too clean. A guy under a blanket whom nobody found before a CNN correspondent got there? You really believe that?

    He also looks as if he were fed well for a few months before that. Except for shaking hands, but tremor can be imitated. The blanket looks kinda whole and clean.

    Fsck, reminds me of watching pieces of Soviet TV on Youtube, of the “Kalashnikov (the man) talks to soldiers in Afghanistan about their complaints and wishes for the next revision of the rifle” kind. That video I’m talking about had soldiers in the same 60s kit, despite actual combatants in Afghanistan having a lot of official (the so-called “Afghan” uniform, they say it’s kinda convenient, and also it looks really nice of photos) and unofficial (sneakers instead of tarpaulin boots, baseball caps) changes by then, awkward questions and answers, weirdly chosen location, too little tan on soldiers for Afghanistan … A very uncanny feeling.

    There was also some other video, where an officer inspecting a column (looks legit, all the official and unofficial changes are there) somehow right on camera finds a Kazakh and someone else (non-Russian too) beating a Russian, stops that, scolds them, listens it all out, gives out that strict, but fair punishment … Very unnatural too.

    My point - it’s a clear fake.

    EDIT: Except not sure about tan, in some parts of the video he looks tanned, in some not. I think there’s been some lousy editing involved.

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        13 days ago

        It isn’t. But it’s a safe bet to expect fakes from CNN on anything concerning emotions, good and evil, liberation and oppression, etc.

        For me the “Democratic” and “Republican” choices for support in Syria seem inverted as compared to American parties themselves. CNN reproduces narratives of the Sunni Jihadi types who suddenly pretend to be progressive (it’s not necessary to put a bag on a woman, a Christian has a right to live, such very revolutionary things for them). Fox News interviews SDF commanders, and SDF is the only secular democratic force there, even socialist.

    • Journalist finds a prisoner under a blanket in an otherwise abandoned cell. Had apparently been there for about 3 months, being moved from prison to prison and having to endure torture.

      They reassure him the regime fell and take him outside, where the shock sets in. Paramedics treat him and take him for further treatment, during which he remarks it’s the first car in a long time he was placed in to without being blindfolded.

      The journalist doesn’t seem to speak the language and keeps talking English to him, which he doesn’t understand. He does clutch her arm as they go outside the prison just so he has something to hold on to.