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Fuck that guy in the meme.
Seriously. That shit needs to die already. I really don’t want to see this fascist fuckface all the time.
FYI, OP swapped the image, making your comment appear misleading. Everyone loves Calvin, the little gremlin!
Why?
It’s steven crowder, he’s a sexist, homophobic, transphobic content creator.
Did it matter? I thought it was Tom hanks until recently. It’s not like he gets paid every time it’s posted.
But he wins internet clout, which as we all know from Keanu Reeves, is sometimes enough for you to make a comeback long after your career is over.
(Nothing against Reeves, seems like a good dude)
He only wins internet clout if you know who he is. I didn’t. He was just that guy in the meme.
Now he’s been named at least two people, who didn’t know of his existence, now know.
You’ve just Barbara Streisand’ this guy.
Just the facts:
Maybe they just find him handsome?
I’d suggest against that, he has a history of assaulting people who do that.
Or op is conservative.
Or OP is one of the many people who still doesn’t know who Steven Crowder is
I envy them 🥹
I long for the days when he was just a voice actor on Arthur
Downvote cause of Crowder
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This is excellent
Its not mine… I found it somewhere and saved it. and thank you
We did it, Lemmy!
Stop using the Steven Crowder meme already. The guy is total trash.
Just as OP.
OP does not use said meme
this guy links to it
Smh.SMH.
(Or possibly OP edited away from that meme and this guy leaves the link. I’m a day late, take your pick. )
Whenever anyone brings this up, I imagine a vegan sitting at a table with their new friends, refusing to eat any chicken wings, but also not saying why… And then everyone harassing them with a million questions like, “do you not like hot sauce? We can get barbecue”, “are you on a diet?”, “are you allergic?”, etc, etc. Finally, after half an hour of this, they lose it and just as there’s a lull in the music, they scream out, “look, I’m a vegan! I don’t fucking eat meat! Fuck off!”
The whole bar goes quiet, staring, then one of the people at the table reaches for a wing, looks at the vegan, and says, “dude, chill, we get it, you don’t eat meat, blah blah blah. You don’t have to talk about it every 5 minutes! Here’s some bread and butter.”
I have to say, I am yet to encounter a cliche vegan.
Not a single vegan I’ve ever met brought up the topic, unless there was a reason for it. Like the scenario you described.
But I’ve met a whole lot of bros who made fun of vegans for existing and being annoying.
I’ve ran into a few online, but even that’s rare. Agreed that people ranting against this stereotype are far more common than the actual stereotype.
Literally no one will ask you a million questions about arch
That’s why vegan != arch user. If you are vegan, you can not avoid the topic. Arch user could avoid the topic.
Uhhh… I mean no. I think the equivalency is both groups love to talk about something that Makes them feel superior- but actually just annoys everyone around them
Still never met a vegan who loves to talk about their dietary choices. Have met a bunch of omnivores who love to harass vegetarians and vegans once they find out someone eats differently than they do.
Both groups are stereotyped as that, and neither group is actually like that
“You’re vegan? No sweat! How about a bean and cheese burrito?”
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Every vegan that irritated me constantly brought it up…the folks who just did their thing got me curious as to why and educated me on some delicious food despite me not being vegan/vegetarian.
I will say I think Indian food is the best vegetarian food to the point that it’s just good, you’re not even worried about meat.
Yep, I don’t eat meat and I don’t recall the last time I actually told someone that unprompted in real life. More likely it’s one of my friends or family that says it for me, like I can’t eat around the bacon that the chef accidentally put on my plate
Kinda proving the point tho. The joke was more on Arch users and everyone in here is writing paragraphs defending Gluten Free/Vegan. But, like the meme is pointing out, you just gotta talk about it! 😂
“Haha vegans never stop talking about themselves!”
Hey can you stop making fun of us?
“Haha look at this, yet another vegan who can’t shut up!”
It’s more like “Hey, don’t Arch users totally fit this stereotype?”, but again, look how defensive you get. It’s hilarious that you don’t see the irony. The joke literally starts with “Arch users…”, but you zero in on the vegan part. You didn’t even need to comment. You could’ve just downvoted and moved on.
I really hope you can appreciate the irony. Humor is good for the soul, buddy.
I don’t use arch, and I’m not vegan, I’m just tired of played out innaccurate “jokes”
Ever hear a completely accurate and factual joke? They’re boring. Just admit you don’t like the joke and move on. You don’t need to further the very stereotype you hate so much.
That’s the irony part that you’re just not getting.
I’m furthering the stereotype by not being part of the group being stereotyped?
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I have never once been accosted by or have accosted vegans on their dietary preference
Congratulations, I wasn’t talking about you specifically because I don’t know you specifically.
Your imagination is perpetuating the myth of the vast majority of people caring about an individual’s dietary preferences.
No, I’m reversing the myth OP was perpetuating that vegans talk about being vegans constantly. There is no myth that “the vast majority of people care about an individual’s dietary preferences.” I’m using hyperbole to demonstrate what would happen if in a hypothetical situation where a vegan didn’t mention that they were vegan to explain why they weren’t eating meat. The hyperbole comes from the non-vegans not understanding why someone would not eat meat, forcing the vegan to announce themselves. Suddenly, the vegan, despite all their efforts not to, has perpetuated the myth that vegans constantly talk about vegans. In the hyperbolic situation - being used to demonstrate the inanity of the vegans-always-talk-about-being-vegans myth - the non-vegans represent people who perpetrate that myth.
Thankfully, that’s not you. Sorry if you felt attacked.
You do realize that people with celiac disease aren’t just choosing to not eat gluten right?
True, but those are not the people the men’s is making fun of. It makes fun of perfectly healthy people who decide they need gluten free everything because they heard that gluten is bad and they can’t do any research on how and why. Same with vegans who are only vegan because it’s trendy (and who probably cheat every other meal because a vegan lifestyle actually requires a fair amount of effort and learning about nutrition).
a vegan lifestyle actually requires a fair amount of effort and learning about nutrition
I was actually surprised by how little effort it really took? Like replace butter with margarine, slave milk with oatmilk and, unless you’re baking, eggs aren’t actually that important.
The rest is just choosing different meals. Roasted vegetables, fried rice, bulgur, beans etc. instead of steak or sausages or what have you. Get some starchy stuff, some veggy stuff, some proteiny stuff = heathy meal. Most nonvegans live less healthy than that. Then there really is only the B12 debate left, and if you want to err on the safe side just take some supplements. They’re really cheap.
Sure, it wasn’t 0 effort, but it wasn’t exactly rocket science either. Just kind of look at what you’re eating, throw out the non-vegan stuff and go from there. If you have any qualms about the exploitation of beings with a consciousness, who can feel the pain and suffering when their kids are killed just give it a try.
It’s actually not quite as easy, you do have to at least get a rough understanding of what you need and where to get it.
Especially for women, iron deficiency is a real problem. For some reason, they lose a bunch of iron every month and that needs to be replaced. A lot of women are running low on iron even with “conventional” diets, so dumping all the iron rich animal products can be a problem.
It’s far from impossible, but you have to educate yourself a bit about your needs.
But thats true about nutrition in general. A lot of people have deficiencies without being vegan, this stereotype that veganism is somehow dangerous unless you know what you’re doing is just wrong. People need to be more educated about nutrition in general independently of veganism.
slave milk with oatmilk
What’s slave milk?
Milk produced by slave labor.
What slave labour? Is there slave labour where you live?
The slave labor of the cows and goats in this case.
I see.
a vegan lifestyle actually requires a fair amount of effort
It isn’t that hard in most “well developed” (sorry to use that term) places. Sure, you have to look at some nutrition labels and maybe take a B vitamin, but it isn’t arduous. Took me next to no effort, but going from ~18 years vegetarian to a vegan diet wasn’t hard for me personally.
The people being mocked are the ones who have made “gluten free” trendy and that labelling far less reliable for folks with celiac.
On the contrary, since gluten-free food became trendy, there’s been more of it on offer, which is better people with coeliac disease. The problem arises when chefs and cooks start thinking gluten-intolerant people are asking for gluten-free food because it’s trendy, so they decide to just run the risk of poisoning someone because they think they know better. I used to have a chef like this, and he ended up poisoning someone. Massive cunt, he was.
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Please inform yourself before diminishing others’ plights.
Diarrhoea that is characteristic of coeliac disease is chronic, sometimes pale, of large volume, and abnormally foul in odor. Abdominal pain, cramping, bloating with abdominal distension (thought to be the result of fermentative production of bowel gas), and mouth ulcers[35] may be present.
Coeliac disease leads to an increased risk of both adenocarcinoma and lymphoma of the small bowel
Long-standing and untreated disease may lead to other complications, such as ulcerative jejunitis (ulcer formation of the small bowel) and stricturing (narrowing as a result of scarring with obstruction of the bowel).
Have you ever had gluten free pastry?
Yes, I’ve had gluten-free pastries before. My friend has Celiac and can’t consume gluten due to possible intestinal damage.
He has taken me to delicious gluten-free bakeries to get ice cream cookie sandwiches, pumpkin bread, brownies, garlic parmesan bread, quiche, meat handpies, etc
Just because you had bad ones doesn’t mean they are all bad. Same goes with other food.
I mean you can choose to power through it. I’d sooner have a windy, achy gut than eat a gluten-free yum yum.
Well, if you had celiac disease, good luck living with permanent damage to your intestinal villi.
Are you seriously comparing devastating and life threatening diseases and bodily waste to food that thousands of people eat every day without complaint?
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Man, imagine being stuck not only in a distro-wars mindset, but also thinking vegans are some kind of problem. Not ever has any of my countless vegan friends started to talk about how great being a vegan is. Strangely this phenomenon seems to be limited to social media and I couldn’t care less about that
To the contrary. It’s normally non-vegans making a big deal about it when they find out, asking the same questions, and attempting to debate.
Exactly. Open any post on the internet even slightly hinting towards veganism (or cute animals for that matter), and you’ll have the insufferable army posting gifs of sizzling bacon, steak being cut, or making jokes about how that one guy’s childhood chicken would make for a perfect chicken nugget.
I’ve met quite a few vegans and far as I know none of them avoid gluten. I also know someone with celiac disease, who would never even contemplate going vegan when he already has so many dietary restrictions to put up with.
They’re not absolutely mutually exclusive groups, but pretty close to it I think. Slackware users who install everything through Snap are the real gluten-free vegans of the linux world.
Hail Seitan! --> many vegans (including myself) swear on pure gluten :D
And yes, I also know people who also cannot be vegan because of all their dietary restrictions.
I guess the similarity of arch users and vegans lies in the fact that both groups are very much outside the norm. So you often have to distance yourself from the assumed default (windows/apple computer, omnivore diet). And just talking with other people, it comes up often by itself. If someone asks me to fix their windows PC, I have to tell them that I haven’t really used windows for nearly a decade now. And if someone invites me over or to a restaurant, I have to tell them that I’m vegan. But people who are inside the norm often don’t deal very well with outsiders, so they have to invent tropes like the annoying vegan. What is actually annoying them is their own double standard they have to live with (torturing/killing animals and having a large ecological impact vs wanting to be a good human being).
But obviously there are also some people who use arch or are vegan and do it to provoke a reaction, to feel special and morally superior.
I’m a vegan arch user. Not gluten-free. That’s for gentoo.
I think FreeBSD users are the literal gluten free vegans of the Linux community. That is if you want to consider them part of the community.
They don’t use Linux and they don’t use glibc.
I feel like with this analogy that would be like saying vegans are part of the meat community which I would assume most people would disagree with.
Of all the OSes I’ve tried to get into, FreeBSD is the worst by a longshot. I didn’t even get it up and running because the community was so fucking toxic. Yes, I read the fucking manpages, no the thing I’m trying to do wasn’t covered or was unclear. Oh my God, alright, nevermind.
I’m not sure I really see the reason to use BSD over Linux in the first place
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What can I say? Everytime I get an update I get a little spike in dopamine. Arch is perfect for that
I also get a little spike in dopamine every time I don’t hurt an animal. That’s why I’m vegan too 😎 don’t even get me started on the “b12-less buzz” 😏
Sadly, those updates have diminishing returns for me. “Oh, yet another kernel update. Time to reboot again.”
“honey time for a kernel update and reboot”
“yes dear”
b12-less buzz
I just take a B complex vitamin each morning.
Yeah but then you miss out on the buzz (/s, referring to one of the symptoms of b12 deficiency “paresthesia in hands and feet” https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-b12-deficiency-symptoms#pins-and-needles)
Guess I’m missing out!
vegan btw
The 2 best features that I love and cannot live without anymore are having a rolling release that doesn’t break every single time I try to do a distro upgrade, and the AUR. I use Arch btw.
Preach. (Though I haven’t used pure Arch in a long time.)
Rolling distros have been all I’ve run for at least the past 6 or 7 years, and I essentially never do a fresh install anymore unless I get new hardware. It’s a lovely, low maintenance place to be, and I’ve always got fresh versions of all the software I use.
I have a roughly 13 year old install that I’ve moved through the transition to /usr/ and from sysv to systemd. Its my oldest install. I run almost everything except suse as a systems admin.
As a way to run Linux, I find arch one of the nicest. Rolling release, unmodified packages direct from the dev, unopinionated systems management, arch build system for any packages you want to compile, arch Linux archive that can be used for snapshotting or locking your rolling release, and AUR.
It’s a completely different way to manage and build an OS that no one else is really doing. I find team ‘I use arch btw’ to be extremely annoying but at the end of the day, the arch tooling for building a Linux ypunlike to use means that people are naturally going to want to tell you they built something they find enjoyable to use. That’s not really something a lot of people say about most OSs.
I have a range of issues and annoyances with most major OS, ranging from i cant use this to i wish this worked. Windows, MacOS, Ubuntu/deb flavors, redhat/fedora flavors, openwrt, alpine and other busybox flavors, iOS, Android, Graphine. All have things that mostly work but I’m always working around something.
And finding accurate documentation for issues on distros that have different configuration release to release is a pain, deb, Ubuntu and redhat flavors are especially egregious. I don’t really care how to do this on RH6 or Ubuntu 11, lol, I want docs for the current version.
It’s a completely different way to manage and build an OS that no one else is really doing. I find team ‘I use arch btw’ to be extremely annoying but at the end of the day, the arch tooling for building a Linux ypunlike to use means that people are naturally going to want to tell you they built something they find enjoyable to use. That’s not really something a lot of people say about most OSs.
I wanted to try to find a way to say this in reply to some of the other comments, but I wasn’t sure I could communicate it effectively without just sounding like I was living up to the meme. You did a better job than I would have. :)
I have a roughly 13 year old install that I’ve moved through the transition to /usr/ and from sysv to systemd.
Whew! I’m aware of both those transitions, and was an arch user during one of them, but that’s super impressive. My oldest install is from 2020, endeavouros on a headless media server in my basement. Not even close!
Yeah, I that nk a lot of people ‘get it’ but can’t quite explain it. So they tell you they use arch and they they are excited about it.
I’m a pro, I’ve used basically every type of Linuxevwr made. Ive built and run linux from wcratch multiole times, as a lewrning experience, a teaching experience and even protypes for production systrms. I understand the packaging philosophies, I understand the opinionated administration decisions. I’m subscribed to most major distro mailing lists and i understand the political motivations that drive various teams to the different technical decisions.
Arch isn’t for everyone. And I’m totally fine with that. But it is perfect for people who want to build something with well crafted and unopinionated tooling. Of everyone ‘got’ arch they’d be failing at what they ate trying to do.
I switched from arch to opensuse tumbleweed, and even though I really like opensuse, arch was so much simpler to maintain, pacman is so much better than zypper. I disliked arch until I gave it a real try, but even though I’ve moved on for now on my main computer, arch is stil a really good distribution if you know how to set it up
You might want to have a look at endeavouros if you consider coming back. It does a lot of the heavy lifting for you. I’ve got arch, manjaro, antergos in my background as far as arch-based distros I’ve tried over the years, and have not had major problems with any of them, but endeavouros is an easy install with some conservative defaults. I had only a couple things to add on afterward to get it just how I wanted, you have a fair bit of control at install time, and once installed it’s just like maintaining an arch system.
No I have no trouble using arch and I still use it on my laptop, I just like opensuse because it’s fun so I use that on my main computer now
No worries. For me, the the fun of installing wore off after a couple times, so I have stuck with derivatives in recent years, but I get it. :)
Theres no real reason to manually install arch anymore though, archinstall script is easy, and works well. Yea you don’t get a fancy GUI, but there are plenty of options to choose at install time.
Classic post-purchase rationalisation
Except it’s completely different starting with you not having to spend a penny lmao
The upside is it’s a rolling release and very convenient btw.
Op neither likes people decided to not kill animals nor people using community driven distributions.
You could have used the original meme. The mindset matches
“Gluten Free Vegans” at that. OP doesn’t dislike animal rights, they just specifically dislike people with a potentially life-threatening allergy standing up for animal rights.
Let’s be honest though, they’ve just written both off as “overly restrictive fad diets followed by people who annoy me by talking about their lifestyles”
OP is the human embodiment of a conservative stand-up comedian, or as Tim Heidecker put it
That’s gentoo users actually
And this is why i am on the raw meat diet and use temple os
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this isn’t true imo. not because it was never the case, but because nowadays arch is so easy to use it’s a perfectly normal thing to do, “i use arch btw” isn’t a shocking statement
the gluten free vegans of the computing world are NixOS users
Arch is/was elitist for the sake of elitism, NixOS genuinely makes managing my systems less of a headache
I’m a celiac with a dairy allergy, but I use Fedora.
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I miss cheese so much
