It’s weird that the axes of where “centre” is remain stable over time. Can you imagine comparing “left vs right” between the 1890s and the 1920s? Like a bunch of stuff happened in between, history happened, and that tends to redefine left, right and centre.
Iran is not a good state, they are a fascist theocracy. Israel’s “achievement” is being even worse than that: a warmongering, genocidal apartheid state.
In the western country where I live, riot cops don’t chase kids like that.
Lol, ok so then answer my questions.
Nope, never did, I never questioned Israel proper. The discussion is about the occupied territories, that were the subject of this UN GA resolution, and that you specifically said are super duper legally owned by Israel.
Edit: and if the questions sound nonsensical (something that I myself pointed out in my original comment) it’s because they are questioning your deranged extreme-zionist assertions.
Edit2: wherever you see “greater Israel” I’m talking about the area currently under Israeli effective control: Israel proper+ West Bank +Gaza +Golan Heights +those Lebanese farms.
You didn’t really answer any of my questions.
I also clarified my point 3 in an edit that I was talking about the treatment of Arabs in Samaria and Judaea. Sorry about the confusion.
Edit, esp. for the first question, you’re blathering about Gaza, when I specifically asked about the occupied territories, which you said Israel holds super duper legally. Focus please.
If Israel is legally justly etc the holder of Judaea and Samaria, can you please clarify which scenario you are pushing for: a) giving full Israeli citizenship and rights to the Arabs who have lived in these lands for generations thus ending the Jewish ethno state, b) expulsing them from the lands, thus explicitly advocating for the crime of ethnic cleansing, or c) formally establishing in law an apartheid regime with a permanent underclass? Please clarify.
If Israel is the homeland of any Jewish-American rando from New York, with ancestry in Buttfuckburg East Prussia, whose family hasn’t set foot in the territory for 2000 years, then when do I as a Greek person get to assert my rights in beachfront property in Marseille and in Syracuse? Apollo promised it to me, we have a Delphic oracles and everything. Also, i have a Russian friend who says Kiyv was originally the homeland if the Rus people and therefore his country should get full rights to that land. Does he also get the privilege?
By your own reasoning, regarding the Arabs in the lands of greater Israel, I would like to bring up jewish people living in any other country that is not officially Jewish, where “even when they were there, they did not rule it”. Can you please clarify exactly what kind of antisemitic policies you are willing to endorse and accept? Should for example British Jews enjoy full rights in the UK? Do British Jews get to consider the UK their country, their home? Do they ever get to be full and equal UK citizens, whose allegiance, rights etc are not to be questioned by any special policy, institution or individual? Or should Jews outside Israel be subject to the kind of treatment Israel reserves for Arabs in Samaria and Judaea that you say it completely super-duper legally holds?
(To be clear, I don’t endorse any of this insanity. I’m just pointing out the absurdity of your extremist argumentation.)
What a shitty title and crappy biased article. That’s not what the resolution was about.
Here’s the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/19/un-resolution-israel-palestinian-territory-countries-vote/
U.N. General Assembly demands Israel end occupation of Palestinian territory The nonbinding resolution says Israel must end its “unlawful presence” within a year, pull out military forces, halt settlement expansion and evacuate settlers.
Oh cool, look the Democrats are trying to suppress the vote in Michigan.
I mean c’mon genie, that barely covers my Kharadron, Drukhari, and Votan dream collections.
Donald is obviously getting old. He couldn’t even remember the folks who write the Project 2025 manifesto.
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The way I understood your point is that their foundational atrocity, the Nakba, makes majority-Jewish democracy impossible. I.e., it could have never at any point in its history have been a democratic country. Did I understand your point wrong?
To that point I responded that other ethnostate democracies exist in the region that also have foundational atrocities in their history but are now pretty democratic and pretty peaceful, …all things considered. But they had to learn the lesson the hard way. That’s my point, that Israelis need to at some point also face the harsh reality of the impossibility of their nationalist delusions. Just like the Greeks, the Turks, the Bulgarians etc.
I don’t see it. Same shit happened all over the Balkans, Anatolia and the Caucasus. Hell it’s not even the most recent example. Cyprus has been subjected to colonization by Anatolian Turks since the 1974 war, and that’s after the Yom Kippur War.
I don’t think so. In the context of the eastern Mediterranean and the Balkans, the Nakba is (sadly) not that unique.
The Israelis have been “creating facts on the ground” in the West Bank for thirty years.
These are now facts and Israel will have to reckon with what those facts mean.
It has always been a trilemma for them: Israel can be large, Jewish, democratic, pick two. They seem to have frozen the first variable, making the trilemma a dilemma: a Jewish state or a democratic one.
Because of European asylum rules. Those migrants have to be processed in their country of entry.
Also, because they are racist fucks, who are paid to believe that Greece is being invaded.
Um, you’re describing Greece plus or minus some unemployment percentage points.
If only there were international organizations that could enforce standards. Like the WTO for example.