That is a very valid and reasonable opinion, sorry to see it downvoted.
There will be strong disagreement with you, however, on the case that LLMs are a big enough resource hog to require outright banning for just that reason.
If you are looking for Big Tech hit boxes, try for things like writing laws that require all energy consumption in datacenters to be monitered and reported using established cross-disciplinary methods.
Or getting people to stop buying phones every year. Or banning disposable vapes.
I knew it’s going to be downvoted. People here mostly support AI. But I don’t and what I meant is that I just would love the governments to ban it (obviously). The energy efficiency is the most simple reason to tell them so yea. Sorry everyone but I’m old schooled. Put your fancy AI bells and whistles away and embrace efficient, old and proven ways of computing such as using GUI, TTY and search engines (that still consume a lot but not as inefficiently). They at least don’t consume 10 MW (or a few seconds of full load CPU time and 200Gb of space if it’s a local LLM) to calculate 2+2*2 or give you a link to a Wikipedia article that explains what a helicopter is (coughcough Bing coughcough). And they hallucinate way less often too.
Well, if someone questioned the environmental consequences of combustion engines a hundred years ago, they would be laughed of, but decades later we came to the conclusion that they’re terrible to tbe environment. Jumping on new things without pondering the consequences, like we mostly do as a society, isn’t very different from fearing everything new. I think it’s a good thing to have some caution and discuss the possible consequences of generative ai. I would prefer more data and less sentiment, though.
You can have an opinion that is grounded in basis of logic or fact.
In my opinion, the sunset appears pinky/purple. The basic foundation of this opinion (which others may disagree with due to slight variations in atmospheric conditions) is still rooted in fact. Someone else may think it looks red/purple. Both are basically correct, reasonably speaking.
That is a very valid and reasonable opinion, sorry to see it downvoted.
There will be strong disagreement with you, however, on the case that LLMs are a big enough resource hog to require outright banning for just that reason.
If you are looking for Big Tech hit boxes, try for things like writing laws that require all energy consumption in datacenters to be monitered and reported using established cross-disciplinary methods.
Or getting people to stop buying phones every year. Or banning disposable vapes.
I knew it’s going to be downvoted. People here mostly support AI. But I don’t and what I meant is that I just would love the governments to ban it (obviously). The energy efficiency is the most simple reason to tell them so yea. Sorry everyone but I’m old schooled. Put your fancy AI bells and whistles away and embrace efficient, old and proven ways of computing such as using GUI, TTY and search engines (that still consume a lot but not as inefficiently). They at least don’t consume 10 MW (or a few seconds of full load CPU time and 200Gb of space if it’s a local LLM) to calculate 2+2*2 or give you a link to a Wikipedia article that explains what a helicopter is (cough cough Bing cough cough). And they hallucinate way less often too.
permacompute or bust
Who is permacompute?
https://permacomputing.net
This thing is utopian and everything but man is it the best thing I read online in 2024 so far. Permacomputing or bust.
FoxtrotRomeo (edit: for real )
SierraUniformSierra
I am at a loss, you might have to explain that one to me - all I’ve got is either something was sus or Save Union Souls lol
It’s an opinion, but it’s hardly valid. It’s a knee-jerk fear reaction to something new.
People had the same opinion about computers, cellphones, even electricity…
Well, if someone questioned the environmental consequences of combustion engines a hundred years ago, they would be laughed of, but decades later we came to the conclusion that they’re terrible to tbe environment. Jumping on new things without pondering the consequences, like we mostly do as a society, isn’t very different from fearing everything new. I think it’s a good thing to have some caution and discuss the possible consequences of generative ai. I would prefer more data and less sentiment, though.
All opinions are valid. Not all opinions contain facts. All opinions contain assholes.
VALID - (of an argument or point) having a sound basis in logic or fact; reasonable or cogent.
No, not all opinions are valid.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5702337
You’re right, there are NO valid opinions, my bad.
“An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive, rather than facts, which are true statements.”
You can have an opinion that is grounded in basis of logic or fact.
In my opinion, the sunset appears pinky/purple. The basic foundation of this opinion (which others may disagree with due to slight variations in atmospheric conditions) is still rooted in fact. Someone else may think it looks red/purple. Both are basically correct, reasonably speaking.