• _number8_@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    if you watch steve jobs’ 2007 iphone keynote it’s incredibly depressing now. he brags about how the iphone can load full, rich webpages instead of awful mobile versions; he loads the NYT website and gets the whole lush landscape desktop version, and taps to zoom in on certain elements. i used to be such a dork and so into tech in high school, it seemed so promising and wondrous.

    i bet jobs could’ve yelled at spez about the API changes and gotten him to relent

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      8 months ago

      i bet jobs could’ve yelled at spez about the API changes and gotten him to relent

      Why would Jobs care? Reddit’s app goes through the app store, Apple gets a cut of any premium users buy on it.

      And why would Spez relent to Jobs? Everything Spez is doing is to get maximum payout from the IPO and then cash out. He doesn’t give a shit about the actual site anymore.

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      “Full rich webpages” on a 2007 iPhone meant bare HTML and a kilobyte of Javascript. Anything fancy would be in Flash because JS was slow as balls, and the iPhone never ran Flash.

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        8 months ago

        the iPhone never ran Flash.

        Ruffle has (recently, for me) entered the chat.

        Not that this negates the performance concerns, but just that Flash on iPhone is becoming a possibility.

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          If we’re counting now and into the future, the EU has coerced them to finally tolerate other browsers.

          … not that I’m aware of any current browser with Flash support.

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            Ruffle gives it support, no EU good-intention-poor-implementation regulation required. The demo link I shared above works with any browser, built in Safari included.

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              Oh I know, I was just suggesting more-direct support was possible. Genuine stupid coverage for a long-dead plugin.

              Maybe someone could coerce Dolphin browser from Android to iOS.

              I do have to say, Ruffle is the most boringly-named of the “let’s do Flash in JS” projects. The first big one was named Gordon, in an obvious pun. The follow-up was named Shumway, in a less-obvious pun. About ALF.

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                Speaking of historical Flash support, I actually forgot the old Puffin Browser which I’ve bought back in 2011, and apparently is still around. They run a browser on their server and you get a VNC-like client to access that instance. So by no means native support, but it was super functional at least back in the days — haven’t used it for years since I stopped buying iPads as my use case are better suited for the Mac and the iPhone instead.

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                  8 months ago

                  That is dedication I absolutely would not match. I bought Android for software freedom and mmmight have watched some pivotal Homestuck animations on a Droid 2 Global.

                  Even now, please don’t give Apple money.

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                    8 months ago

                    Everyone has different preferences and priorities.

                    I just spent an obscene amount of time yesterday and overnight, losing sleep in the process, in order to get our media server back online and running after what was supposed to be an automated system update that botched the entire storage array… all that just so the little one can listen to the music we’ve vetted and she likes.

                    That is an experience I do not want on my phone and computer. My personal computer and phone are mission critical — as in, they’re what’s enabling me to make money and put food on the table. I cannot tolerate downtimes. The fact that everything I need just works together, bundled with a much higher degree focus on privacy than everything else on the market makes it a no brainer for me to just keep buying Apple devices one after another.

                    Some people may prefer the tinkering and tweaks and customizations. Others might want to play emulated games or triple A titles. Not me. Give me the walled garden and lock it down. I don’t want anything that could make it remotely unstable.