I know you’re convinced that a little cinnamon improves your chili.

You are incorrect on this conviction.

  • rumba@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    If you use cinnamon and cloves in chili, the cinnamon and cloves should be almost undetectable. The spice is meant to provide a warm undertone.

    Realistically, if you want to properly experience it, forget adding cinnamon and add good quality chorizo. It has cinnamon, but brings a lot more to the table.

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        10 hours ago

        I honestly had no idea what was in chorizo. I had been making chili with it at home and it came time to make it for work, I stopped by the market near work and they didn’t have any. I was all “FINE!, I’ll make my own” and looked it up, there are TONS of variations. The one I went for was basically vinegar, coriander, cinnamon, cloves, and most of the spices I already use in chili.

        One of my favorite taco shops made one that was very hot and just a touch sweet the cinnamon was forward which I didn’t care for at first, but it ended up being amazing, it was also processed fine like round beef. I’ve been trying to replicate that for a while.

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    3 days ago

    Chili is short for chili con carne, not chili con carne y frijoles. I understand competitions demanding a certain “purity.” That said, I will put beans in my chili because that’s what I like.

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      3 days ago

      I say it’s short for Chile con Carne because beans are the baseline chili - I’d eat chili with beans and no meat, Chile sin Carne, that’s a meal by itself.

      But chili with meat and no beans, like Chile Colorado, needs to be served with beans and rice, it’s not good by itself. I do make that sometimes but people just call it “meat” when I do. Nobody here thinks of it as chili.

      I don’t think any food is pure. Traditions are forever changing.

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        If you’re chili con carne is “just meat,” you’ve seriously skimped on the star of the show, the chilis. Which most people seem to do… I’ve seen way too many chili recipes that are basically just a tomato, meat, and bean stew with a dash of chili powder.

        I don’t think any food is pure. Traditions are forever changing.

        I 100% agree. Hence I said I understand the purists and the chili competitions that don’t allow beans, but I’m going to make mine with beans. Also, much of the best foods are fusions. The chilis, the spicy fruits not the dish, are the perfect example. I can’t imagine a world in which Indian, Thai, or just about any Asian dish doesn’t have a spicy kick to it. Yet every single species of chili originated in South America. Same story with the tomato. My favorite cuisine is Cajun which is French cooking techniques using the South American and Haitian ingredients that were available. There are countless examples like that.

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          Ha, no they call it “meat” but of course there are chiles. Generally anchos & a guajillo and if I have one the smoked oaxacan pepper. rehydrated in the meat broth and blended with onion and roasted tomatillos, not tomato. It’s really good I just cannot think of it as chili.

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              18 hours ago

              Ha! It’s flavorful as fuck actually with the mostly ancho assortment and tomatillos but the venn diagram in my family for people who like meat heavy meals and the people who like very spicy (as in picante) food doesn’t have much overlap - me and the vegan are the only actual chiliheads.

              When I make the vegetarian chili, it gets jalapenos, tomatoes, lots of bottled chili powder, some tinned chipotle powder, leftover very spicy salsa, sometimes beer or a splash of whiskey, I keep adjusting it until it seems like it will be good, then leave it to simmer or in the slow cooker. it’s more of a refrigerator stew but always pintos, I don’t like any other beans in there.

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                2 hours ago

                Your vegetarian chili sounds better, and I’m definitely more on the carnivore side. I don’t know if I’ve ever made chili with pinto beans. I’m a kidney and red bean man myself.

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      3 days ago

      Beanless chili only works as a hot dog condiment. I don’t see the point otherwise

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      Beans are the foundation of chili. You can remove all the meat from a chili and still call it chili. You cannot remove all the beans and still call it chili.

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        2 days ago

        Yes: Pinto beans are called chili beans for a goddamn reason. But also kidney beans in the mix (and black beans at least) are delicious too.

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          I can’t find good kidney beans (all the ones I find, their skins are too tough compared to the other beans) so I use navy beans instead. Also pinto beans. I can’t remember the third but it’s a three bean chili dammit who ever heard of a two bean chili

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      3 days ago

      All the beanless chili I’ve had has been made with chunks of meat instead of ground meat so more like a spicy stew.

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        13 hours ago

        I’ve had a lot with shredded beef, but that’s probably because they were too lazy to cut it after smoking. Shredding is easier.

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    These rules come from the same people who put a slice of cheese on apple pie. “It adds a savory quality to all the sweetness.” Fuck off, it adds the taste of cheese to apple pie. People also like mint and chocolate, maybe you should eat some M&Ms coated in Vicks vaporub

    Chili is steaming dog food with too many spices and onions for dogs to eat. If you think your chili tastes better with beans or even cinnamon, then get down with your bad self. Anyone who tells you otherwise is welcome to not eat your chili.

    “Syrup doesn’t belong on waffles/french toast”
    “Cookies shouldn’t have raisins”
    “You shouldn’t put butter on your tortillas”
    Fuck all y’all, I’mma eat my food how it tastes good and you can maybe chime in once you got a show on the food network

    ^I’m a Texan who will eat your chili with or without beans and I approve this message^

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      I agree, but then they call that slop they put on spaghetti in Cincinnati chili and it doesn’t have any beans, so I don’t know what’s real anymore.