Ukraine lost its sovereignty back in 2014 when the west ran a coup that overthrew the legitimate and democratically elected government. What NATO “support” has accomplished was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and millions more had their lives ruined without changing the outcome. End of story.
You mean when Yanukovych tried to make himself dictator and killed some protestors for it only to flee when that triggered massive protests and the US wanted the people protesting to accept his deal and not get rid of him?
The article literally links to dozens of mainstream western sources. I love how libs are invariably unable to actually engage with the content, and simply resort to ad hominem when faced with facts that run contrary to their narrative.
Dismissing the source because it’s Quora without actually engaging with the content of the source which links to lots of primary sources, is in fact an example of ad hominem.
Pointing out that libs use this tactic however is not.
Ah yes a quora post that reads like a conspiracy theory with sources that point to other quora posts. This is why debunking qanon, flat earth and other such conspiracies is such a chore, no one ever has like one credible thing to point to, it’s a spiderweb of events that usually don’t properly connect but they all have massive documents that try to connect them anyways.
There are plenty of well documented facts that seemingly support flat earth too and there are hundreds of similar schizo posts with those as that quara post but that doesn’t make the earth flat.
Should also point out that five police officers were tried for this supposed massacre. The trial itself was shady as shit and Kiev Independent acknowledged that the Ukrainian prosecution sabotaged the proceedings. Out of the five officers on trial, the three that were tried in absentia were conveniently given harsh sentences and the two in attendance did not serve any time, with one being acquited.
I actually appreciate your wholehearted bewilderment instead of calling everyone a Russian bot. I know a guy in Oregon who just fishes all the time and works shit jobs who wrote an epic series on the Maidan if you ever decide to give a shit about what happened.
To tell you the truth, I have no confidence any redditor could take the ride he and I took, back to WWII. Back to Stepan Bandera. Back to the Breton Woods conference which began the motions which positioned the US to grasp at total financial, military, technological, petrochemical, pharmaceutical, caloric, you name it we weaponized it economically on a scale the British and other little piddly “empires” could never dream of.
Back before that, to the development of capitalism itself which was delayed in Germany resulting in its peculiar backward traits. How it indirectly affected the irrationalist philosophers which inspired Hitler.
There is no hiding the coup in Ukraine slappy. It was well planned. It was heralded with a bipartisan tripartite of congressional emissaries you surely know and love: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bmaakY-PIAc (this video is search blocked on youtube and duckduckgo but is accessible). A paratrooper from north carolina helped orchestrate the false flag attacks at the Maidan. You’d never believe it all. The Russians can’t even believe some of the shit I know about Ukrainian history.
Did you know Stepan Bandera was assassinated by the KGB with poison gas
PS - I can almost relate to people who say things like this, or speculate about how every country in the world engages in torture.
Almost. I can almost remember what it was like to dream like you of a world where everyone is as evil as USA, EU, Japan, NZ, Aus, SK. But thankfully it isn’t. It’s a historical process in motion. Not a static idealistic element of all nation states.
The truth is that modern torture practices were invented and codified by the colonial empires through systematic concentration camp butchery in the Congo (devices which castrate people faster, etc), other colonies, then the British invented torture which didn’t leave marks for domestic use, the Five Techniques. The US has further innovated torture by electrocuting people in the testicles and other such things related to our military hazing culture that creates so many serial killers famous in our country.
You can watch TV shows and pretend the world is all Guantanamo Bay, but we have the training manuals slappy. Going back to the torture methods of the british in malaysia and more. We have all the operation condor torture manuals and SERE. I have seen everything slappy. :-) It will always be out there now. Just like 24 taught me what I can do with a lamp wire in a few moments. We opened pandora’s box to try to control the world. We tried to rip the human soul apart and reassemble it. But we failed. And now we have to pay the price of watching our empire crumble.
The Ukrainians are part of a trail of forensic evidence going back to the British empire in Malaysia slappy. For want of all the evidence but the torture they would be marked American American American :-)
Ukraine lost its sovereignty back in 2014 when the west ran a coup that overthrew the legitimate and democratically elected government. What NATO “support” has accomplished was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and millions more had their lives ruined without changing the outcome. End of story.
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You mean when Yanukovych tried to make himself dictator and killed some protestors for it only to flee when that triggered massive protests and the US wanted the people protesting to accept his deal and not get rid of him?
Indistinguishable from MAGA chuds talking about Jan 6.
yeah that’s totally what happened https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup
Ooh quora, well known for it’s sane and well researched investigative reporting lmao
The article literally links to dozens of mainstream western sources. I love how libs are invariably unable to actually engage with the content, and simply resort to ad hominem when faced with facts that run contrary to their narrative.
“Quora is not a good source” is not an ad hominem.
This, however, is exactly that
Dismissing the source because it’s Quora without actually engaging with the content of the source which links to lots of primary sources, is in fact an example of ad hominem.
Pointing out that libs use this tactic however is not.
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Ah yes a quora post that reads like a conspiracy theory with sources that point to other quora posts. This is why debunking qanon, flat earth and other such conspiracies is such a chore, no one ever has like one credible thing to point to, it’s a spiderweb of events that usually don’t properly connect but they all have massive documents that try to connect them anyways.
How to say you have poor reading comprehension without saying you have poor reading comprehension.
It’s true: A really high IQ is required to fully comprehend conspiracy posts
I love how you keep referring to well documented facts as conspiracy theories. Really helps highlight the quality of your intellect.
There are plenty of well documented facts that seemingly support flat earth too and there are hundreds of similar schizo posts with those as that quara post but that doesn’t make the earth flat.
the blueAnon has spoken 😂
Should also point out that five police officers were tried for this supposed massacre. The trial itself was shady as shit and Kiev Independent acknowledged that the Ukrainian prosecution sabotaged the proceedings. Out of the five officers on trial, the three that were tried in absentia were conveniently given harsh sentences and the two in attendance did not serve any time, with one being acquited.
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bUt aKtcHuAlLy!
This is not true by the way
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I actually appreciate your wholehearted bewilderment instead of calling everyone a Russian bot. I know a guy in Oregon who just fishes all the time and works shit jobs who wrote an epic series on the Maidan if you ever decide to give a shit about what happened.
To tell you the truth, I have no confidence any redditor could take the ride he and I took, back to WWII. Back to Stepan Bandera. Back to the Breton Woods conference which began the motions which positioned the US to grasp at total financial, military, technological, petrochemical, pharmaceutical, caloric, you name it we weaponized it economically on a scale the British and other little piddly “empires” could never dream of.
Back before that, to the development of capitalism itself which was delayed in Germany resulting in its peculiar backward traits. How it indirectly affected the irrationalist philosophers which inspired Hitler.
There is no hiding the coup in Ukraine slappy. It was well planned. It was heralded with a bipartisan tripartite of congressional emissaries you surely know and love: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bmaakY-PIAc (this video is search blocked on youtube and duckduckgo but is accessible). A paratrooper from north carolina helped orchestrate the false flag attacks at the Maidan. You’d never believe it all. The Russians can’t even believe some of the shit I know about Ukrainian history.
Did you know Stepan Bandera was assassinated by the KGB with poison gas
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PS - I can almost relate to people who say things like this, or speculate about how every country in the world engages in torture.
Almost. I can almost remember what it was like to dream like you of a world where everyone is as evil as USA, EU, Japan, NZ, Aus, SK. But thankfully it isn’t. It’s a historical process in motion. Not a static idealistic element of all nation states.
The truth is that modern torture practices were invented and codified by the colonial empires through systematic concentration camp butchery in the Congo (devices which castrate people faster, etc), other colonies, then the British invented torture which didn’t leave marks for domestic use, the Five Techniques. The US has further innovated torture by electrocuting people in the testicles and other such things related to our military hazing culture that creates so many serial killers famous in our country.
You can watch TV shows and pretend the world is all Guantanamo Bay, but we have the training manuals slappy. Going back to the torture methods of the british in malaysia and more. We have all the operation condor torture manuals and SERE. I have seen everything slappy. :-) It will always be out there now. Just like 24 taught me what I can do with a lamp wire in a few moments. We opened pandora’s box to try to control the world. We tried to rip the human soul apart and reassemble it. But we failed. And now we have to pay the price of watching our empire crumble.
The Ukrainians are part of a trail of forensic evidence going back to the British empire in Malaysia slappy. For want of all the evidence but the torture they would be marked American American American :-)
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i knew the point was going to soar right over your head after the first two sentences