More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

“We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

“Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    22 days ago

    Okay, so you’re okay with genocide in Xinjiang, just not in Gaza. And your strategy for solving the genocide in Gaza is to let someone come into power who’s even more pro-genocide that the tepid pro-genocide stance of the current Democrats. Dooming millions of innocent people who can’t fight back to a catastrophe beyond even their present catastrophe.

    So you’re okay with certain genocides. And you don’t want strategies that will avoid a huge escalation of the existing genocide in Gaza.

    It honestly doesn’t sound like you’re very anti-genocide.

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      22 days ago

      Okay, so you’re okay with genocide in Xinjiang

      This is a lie and I will not respond until it is retracted.

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        22 days ago

        You’re right, technically you’re okay with denying the genocide in Xinjiang, the genocide itself must cause some uncomfortable dissonance.

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          22 days ago

          I’m happy to continue this discussion in another thread or via DM, as I would prefer to center Palestinians and their plight and not your interest in finding fictitious hypocrisy. Let me know if you make a thread.

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            22 days ago

            It’s not fictitious. You are a hypocrite and a disingenuous “idealist.” Realists see through you.

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              22 days ago

              You have already acknowledged that my supposed hypocrisy is fictitious, you just tried to then deflect to another criticism, i.e. denial. And I will engage with that criticism if you make another thread or go into DMs. But this thread is not about me or you, it is about the genocide of Palestinians.

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                22 days ago

                Pay attention. You’re addressing a different person. Your engagement is not needed. This is not up for debate. This is a statement of who you are.

                When your input is desired again, your string will be pulled once more.

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                  22 days ago

                  Pay attention. You’re addressing a different person.

                  This is like 10 comments deep so yes I missed a new person jumping in to make the contribution of reiterating parent’s sentiment and then launching unsupported insults.

                  Your engagement is not needed. This is not up for debate. This is a statement of who you are.

                  If you would like to discuss this further, make a new thread and ping me. I’m not sure why I need to say this 3 times.

                  When your input is desired again, your string will be pulled once more.

                  Is this like a little skit playing out in your head or something? Either way, again, the topic here is the genocide of Palestinians. I will be ignoring further off-topic replies.

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                    21 days ago

                    If you would like to discuss this further, make a new thread and ping me. I’m not sure why I need to say this 3 times.

                    Nah, my vote is you stay right here, not go slinking of to some safe space. You opened your gob, take your lumps, you disingenuous muppet.

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              21 days ago

              More like I know that conversation can easily go 10 comments deep so I suggested taking it elsewhere. I prefer to center the genocide of Palestine in this thread.

              So far at least 3 people have responded but none have made a thread.

              If you want to have that discussion feel free to make a thread and ping me. But like the others, I doubt you really mean what you say. It is just a thought terminating cliche that lets you forgive yourself for complicity in genocide.

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            22 days ago

            Lol. I love the “you got me, so let’s take this discussion into privacy” line. What a joke.

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              22 days ago

              They are free to make another thread and link it here. I am just not interested in distracting from the genocide on Palestinians here.

              You can go start that thread if you’d like, feel free to ping me.

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                21 days ago

                I am just not interested in distracting from the genocide on Palestinians here.

                Translation: i got publicly slapped down hard and didn’t like it, so I’m gonna act smug and superior while i take my ball and go home.

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                  21 days ago

                  Nope I’m happy to have that discussion. Feel free to make a thread and ping me.

                  I know you, like the others, probably won’t. This is because you have the situation completely reversed: this is a bad faith deflection that you cannot support and don’t really care about. You are only interested to the extent that you can feel like it is a gotcha and use this to stop thinking about your complicity in genocide.

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                    21 days ago

                    The reason why is because asking for a new thread is just you trying to hide. Odds are no one would see the new thread, and you’re also putting the effort onto others knowing that it likely won’t be done, so then you can act like you won. You’re intentions are crystal clear though and you just look like a fool.