• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    9 个月前

    What’s funny is I can’t tell if you’re talking about younger Americans refusing to hate China or older Americans chanting “China Bad!”

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      9 个月前

      Both tbh

      American failures are being used to prop up Chinese successes. This is particularly true in urbanism discussions. China is by no means perfect and thinking that they are is harmful to progress.

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        9 个月前

        300,000 people are on the organ donor wait-list in China at this very moment.

        You’re a perfect example of the power of propaganda lol

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          9 个月前

          The organs I don’t know about but the reeducation camps are not exactly secret, both for Uyghurs and their own people. There are many issues the US has but at least the average citizen doesn’t have their government disappearing them for thinking the wrong thoughts.

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            9 个月前

            Uyghurs are “their own people” and the USA has far more of its citizens incarcerated than China does.

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              9 个月前

              The US has a ton of problems, I’m not saying it’s a great country to live in necessarily (I wouldn’t move there given the choice). But it’s not a dictatorship where laws are optional for the government.

              Maybe freedom doesn’t mean anything to you when you’re not the one being reeducated though.

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                9 个月前

                But it’s not a dictatorship where laws are optional for the government.

                Neither is China. Also lol at saying laws aren’t optional for government in the USA.

                Maybe freedom doesn’t mean anything to you when you’re not the one being reeducated though.

                Again, the USA has vastly more people incarcerated than China.

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                  “Lol” is always such a strong argument. Really shows that your point is to be taken seriously.

                  If you think that the rule of law in dictatorships is really no worse than that of a democratic country (even one that’s currently in bad shape) I think you’re delusional honestly.

                  We have a lot of problems with our legal systems but we don’t have gulags where we send political opponents to disappear. We don’t have government edicts telling our journalists what they are allowed to talk about.

                  When your own country does bad things it’s easy to look at other counties with rise tinted glasses. 國外的月亮比較圓

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                    9 个月前

                    “Lol” is always such a strong argument. Really shows that your point is to be taken seriously.

                    What are you talking about?

                    If you think that the rule of law in dictatorships is really no worse than that of a democratic country (even one that’s currently in bad shape) I think you’re delusional honestly.

                    Again, what are to talking about? China is a democratic country.

                    we don’t have gulags where we send political opponents to disappear.

                    Neither does China, though the USA does have several times more people incarcerated, including in concentration camps and torture black sites.

                    We don’t have government edicts telling our journalists what they are allowed to talk about.

                    You absolutely do. Not to mention edicts from the private entities that own both your government and your media.

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        9 个月前

        Suddenly there’s no waitlist for organs after these camps start going up?

        Source: it came to me in a dream