• PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Sounds like it’s time for a reminder to FUCK THE CCP and the clown emperor Xi. Never forget Tieneman square. Long live free Taiwan.

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      8 months ago

      What’s funny is I can’t tell if you’re talking about younger Americans refusing to hate China or older Americans chanting “China Bad!”

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        8 months ago

        Both tbh

        American failures are being used to prop up Chinese successes. This is particularly true in urbanism discussions. China is by no means perfect and thinking that they are is harmful to progress.

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          8 months ago

          300,000 people are on the organ donor wait-list in China at this very moment.

          You’re a perfect example of the power of propaganda lol

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            The organs I don’t know about but the reeducation camps are not exactly secret, both for Uyghurs and their own people. There are many issues the US has but at least the average citizen doesn’t have their government disappearing them for thinking the wrong thoughts.

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              8 months ago

              Uyghurs are “their own people” and the USA has far more of its citizens incarcerated than China does.

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                The US has a ton of problems, I’m not saying it’s a great country to live in necessarily (I wouldn’t move there given the choice). But it’s not a dictatorship where laws are optional for the government.

                Maybe freedom doesn’t mean anything to you when you’re not the one being reeducated though.

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                  8 months ago

                  But it’s not a dictatorship where laws are optional for the government.

                  Neither is China. Also lol at saying laws aren’t optional for government in the USA.

                  Maybe freedom doesn’t mean anything to you when you’re not the one being reeducated though.

                  Again, the USA has vastly more people incarcerated than China.

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          8 months ago

          Suddenly there’s no waitlist for organs after these camps start going up?

          Source: it came to me in a dream

  • nucleative@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    My company has an office in China and I’ve been there many many times.

    Chinese people are like all other people - same needs, same hopes and dreams, same fears, same drivers. In the city where our office is located, they are extremely hard working and want to ensure a better future for their family. Just like most American cities.

    Their city is very high tech, moreso than many American cities because they skipped a lot of legacy technology.

    They don’t necessarily subscribe to the same moral/value system as Americans, for example they often see copying each other’s ideas as a compliment whereas Americans see it as stealing. Kind of like - if it’s possible to copy, then it’s fair game - so don’t make it possible if you don’t want it copied. Perhaps that drives a different kind of innovation.

    Obviously there are many more cultural differences. But as a people, we are all essentially working with the same needs.

    All that being said I don’t appreciate the great firewall when I’mthere, the censorship, and the fear they have about discussing banned topics. I don’t appreciate the high-tech security cameras at every corner, or all the tracking of activities. The younger generations tolerate this for now because they are wealthier than their parents and told to cooperate, but that may not hold long term.

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      I don’t appreciate the high-tech security cameras at every corner, or all the tracking of activities.

      I’ve got bad news for you about the West.