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Jesus what I wouldn’t give to see Trump in that orange suit flanked by all of those cops.
I love this place. Post anything about this on reddit and it’s likely to be removed if it gets too positive or the bots downvote it.
Reddit is a place to promote product. This isn’t product. Give it time and big lemmy servers will turn into reddit, but for now we get to enjoy a safe space.
Thankfully, because of the way Lemmy is built, we will forever have smaller communities that don’t turn into garbage like that.
Reddit let this thing run first week as they couldn’t moderate the sentiment this strong but looks like after that they cracked down.
Lemmy world news sub was suppressing this very aggressively during that time.
Mods dropped in in unrelated sub threatening to remove the discussion if we didn’t keep it “civil”
Some clown ass behavior.
Brian Thompson pleaded guilty to drunk driving in 2017, the same month he became CEO.
Damnnn that is one interpretation of drunk driving. "officer, you don’t understand, drunk driving putting everyones life and freedom at risk is what makes us human
Buying a second house for your estranged wife is very normal. I’ve got tons of very real, normal human friends that buy their wives second houses because divorce would cost more than a second house.
The person is very human, yes.
No wonder he thought he knew better than doctors - his penmanship was for shit.
I write in block letters and he is a shit writer.
I write in cursive enchanting table and I couldn’t decipher that.
Why is it terrorism when rich people are killed?
Cause they only care when rich scum are terrorized.
Who controls the present now controls the past.
Terrorism is supposed to be the dogmatic or ideologically motivated killing of civilians, often by those who are willing to die in the process. It’s terror inducing because it could seemingly happen anywhere at any time to any one, and it’s a lot easier to cause harm to others when you’re suicidal and not trying to get away with it.
Of course, that’s not how it’s routinely used, or perhaps was ever really used by anyone except academics.
Not even killed, but even just made to think their plundering might have consequences.
If it’s politically motivated I’m pretty sure it’s terrorism.
The NY charge calls for a specific action taken against a government entity.
Unless UHC is part of the government, but corporations as government is Musolini style fascism, and the US isn’t a fascist country, right?
But is it politically motivated?
He was pissed his claim was denied.
So, I’ve heard he didn’t actually have UHC. There’s also no confirmation of a denied claim, just the fact that he had back pain. Luigi targeted Brian because UHC was the largest insurance provider in the country, not because he was personally denied a particular claim. The guy was doing long distance hiking and running months before the slaying.
TrueAnon podcast has a great deep dive into who Luigi was and what his potential motives were.
He’s got a background in Effective Altruism, he got into the Dark Enlightenment movement, and was involved with a number of Silicon Valley gurus with particularly extremist ideology.
Far from simply being an unhappy customer, it’s likely he’s a real life “Radical Centrist” who got pilled on far center neoliberal ideology.
Wtf is far center?
It’s a bit like far-left or far-right, except it manages to get bipartisan approval.
z axis moment
Bad analysis since far center neo lib would be LARPing violence is never the answer lol
I’d say that yes it was definitely at least partially politically motivated, since it was just as much an attack against the system as it was against the person, but hardly terrorism since there was no intent to scare the general public.
He probably did intend to scare insurance company executives. I can see calling it terrorism, even if I think he should get off.
I’ve dealt with back pain, and during the height of my battle with the insurer I absolutely would’ve been tempted to kill the fuckers given the chance.
insurance company executives
Yes but they are not civilians, the are enemy combatants so it is fair game.
Also Luigi if he did it, literally spared witness who is in fact a civilians.
Terrorism charge will hopefully back fire.
I mean he wrote words on bullets (or casings, I dunno) and a manifesto…
….so? How many killers before him have written a manifesto? Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism? They’re actually striking out at “the system.” How many white supremacists mass shootings have written manifestos and not been charged with terrorism?
Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism?
There’s little need to up-charge school shooters. Many of them are killed on sight. Those that are captured (Dylan Roof, for instance) get life without parole or the death sentence.
But in NYC, a single murder without a terrorist motive only gets you to 2nd Degree Murder. That means you’ll be out in 15 years. The “terrorism” addendum is necessary for life without parole sentencing.
Yes, but the charges should fit the crime not be selected to ensure the desired outcome
There is no objective measure of criminal conduct. It’s all malleable. Prosecutors and judges and juries ultimately make these decisions case-by-case. And the results can be heavily weighted by wealthy, socially influential private interests who want to see an example made of a particularly offensive or terrifying individual.
American soldiers regularly paint imagery and words on the ammunition and vehicles they use to kill people. Are they terrorists too?
The military is political. It is literally policy when the military moves. Anything any military does is dictionary terrorism. But terrorism is a nasty word for it so we don’t call it that.
Makes sense
I mean, yes. But folks here aren’t ready for that conversation
Don’t worry I agree lol
In some instances, absolutely.
I mean I’d agree lol but I doubt this person equates Luigi and the average American soldier painting a bomb. That’s my point. Writing on a bullet case or writing a political statement doesn’t make one terrorist. It’s the violent acts and who they’re directed at any why that determine it.
Yes
sigh yes you’re the third or fourth person to make this joke. Yes I agree.
The point is that nobody calls them terrorists for doing that. Putting words or art on weapons and ammo is considered “normal” as twisted as that is. So Luigi’s doing it does not make him a terrorist.
Yeah I mean it’s obviously trumped-up bullshit in his case, they’re making a point of throwing the book at him any way they can because the owners got their jimmies rustled
‘Terrorism’ is just a word for anything the state doesn’t like.
Is the second guy who tried to shoot trump being charged with terrorism? Because that was politically motivated.
If he’s not, Luigi also does not deserve the charge.
Was the first guy charged?
No he’s dead.
Yeah right, forgot about that.
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There’s 2 possible reasons to have “military” escort. either…
- They must protect the perp from assassination.
- They must prevent mob from liberating him.
That’s why they all had armor and he didn’t. It is number 2.
There is a vibe for caption of “are we the baddies?” to this.
I mean both really
Ain’t no one assassinating him.
I mean his fellow prisoners were calling out free Luigi. Some Fox news idiots thought that being a CEO killer was akin to being a child molester who kills kids when he’s done raping them.
They didn’t realize that being wealthy and ruthless in that pursuit wasn’t something they idolized.
United health probably wants to.
But legally.
Reminds me of that saying “don’t kill the messenger”. Maybe the guy was under the influence of drugs. Maybe the guy was not under the influence of some drugs. We can’t just allow him to be tossed into death row. I assume?
Jesus on his way to be crucified because he spoke up for poor people
All they’re doing is making him look like a badass. They need enough cops to suppress Superman if he turned bad.
The managerial class really is terrified, huh?
If the cops arrested Superman it wouldn’t be because he went bad.
I think they want to intimidate others, but honestly giving him this much of a spotlight should be the dream of anyone thinking about attacking another CEO for attention.
I don’t see how they don’t see it.
Maybe the cops are playing both sides? I’m definitely giving them too much credit there, but maybe?
While I’m sure there is no love lost towards healthcare execs from even the police, an uptick of “terrorism” could also be used as an excuse to give even more power to the police as well.
I was thinking they are playing it up in hopes of copycats. Basically malicious compliance
copycats
Don’t tease me bro!
Our systems and hierarchies do often support the oligarchy, but that does not mean every single individual supports the oligarchy, or that every single thing our systems do are meant to advance the goals of the ultra rich. Sometimes individuals who participate in these systems do malicious compliance, sometimes they don’t comply at all.
In this case there could be someone high-up who is empathetic(or a group of empathetic people unaware of each other, their actions adding up) whose decisions led to this happening, or this could have just been a dumb decision, who knows.
I dont think they need an excuse, they just do whatever they want now. Thats what electing trump is all about, letting them run amuck unrestrained.
That’s definitely giving them too much credit.
They are probably trying to reduce the number of eligible jurors who would acquit him.
Insurers fuck cops over too. While I doubt it’s an act of solidarity with the rest of us peasants, it could actually be an enemy-of-my-enemy situation where cops find themselves hating UHC as much as the rest of us.
How crazy would it be if the next Luigi is a cop?!
This is the same country that tries to fight radicals in other countries by invading, oppressing, and ultimately creating more radicals. Our elite have little understanding of the socially deviant
Because their jobs financing is mostly perception based.
Crime can be at an all time low, but all it takes is a politician to rile up the population about murderers and law enforcement and incarceration will end up getting more money.
Be seen as being ineffective, soft or incompetent, especially by those holding the purse strings, and people lose jobs to those who will toe the line.
This is a message to the wealthy “look how seriously we take serving you”
I have had a lot of opportunities to post this lately, so here we go again:
They rather kill defenseless children.
They are probably also scared of people trying to free him since he is quite popular. This isn’t generally the case for other suspects.
They sure do love taking and posting pictures of him and then yelling at people to not give him any press. How many pics have we seen of him in custody? They dont want coverage of him silenced, they want to control that narrative. US justice system is a sad broken dishonest state of affairs.
Every day Trump walks free has been sad proof of that
Pigs when other pigs choke people to death: I sleep
Pigs when someone touches a mass murdering elite: Real shit
Pigs when someone touches the guy who pays their off-the-books salary: Real shit
Ftfy
If they bring out a regiment to guard your show trial you’re almost certainly on the right side of history.
Probably.
90%
Right side of History, sure, but,
For it’s the end of history
It’s caged and frozen still
There is no other pill to take
So swallow the one
That made you ill
you know, that the end of history crap is what that song criticizes, making it a really strange way to reply to someone saying something is on the right side of history.
Thanks for clarifying. I always thought he meant that our masters were pretending history had stopped and we were frozen in the current moment forever so nothing they do matters.
Can we stop having school shooters and make this a trend instead? 🙏🏾
I love that Adams is there. He literally has no reason to be there other than self promotion. Do you think they discussed the finer points of being indicted federally? Maybe he is trying to get him to ask for a Trump pardon.
“look at what this man did, not what i’ve done!”
-adams, prob
I guess he’s trying to learn more about prison life before he gets his own perp walk.
He is absolutely doing this to appease trump. Dude is getting hit with terrorism charges here to set up precedent for trump to do whatever the fuck he wants.
Lotta cops for a little kid with a busted back
He was a lone wolf and they’re acting like the Mafia might come to free him any moment
Mafia should do something useful for once
Honestly the mafia should free him. Why not? Insurance companies are impeding on the mafias protection racket lol.
They acting like the whole country wants to kill him when it’s the complete opposite.
Yeah, the thing that’s shocked me is how my most capitalist liberal friends are in agreement he did nothing wrong. Like some of them are even agreeing when I use the phrase “class warfare”
This just make him look more like a hero that’s oppressed by the government.
